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It is a matter of principle.

by drsnow 5y ago

undersuit 5y ago
As a small business owner, why do I need to deal with the extra expense of accepting handicapped customers? I need to build a ramp, take preemptive measures to make it accessible in the weather, take time to wait for them to wheel across the office, take time to teach my employees how to be accommodating of them, all sorts of extra costs in staffing or just plain time. And all for a fraction of a percentage of my customer base. It just doesn't make sense and I don't see why I should carry that burden.
- Nursie 5y ago
  And if we put 'black people' in there you could make me look like a racist too! Wow. There are many reasons your allegory doesn't apply - 'people who want to pay cash' are not a protected class. Serving people with disabilities doesn't put me at risk of theft either, nor does it increase my banking costs. You're going to have to show some pretty good evidence of a positive social outcome to make this persuasive, because it is adding a big burden to business. (And unbanked figures in the US are not that - US society is very backward in its attitudes to banking and payments, and in giving access to banking to everyone)
  - sneak 5y ago
    All protected classes are protected classes because society agreed that they should be and codified those beliefs into law. The argument that is being made is that people who want to pay cash should be a protected class, with their ability to transact protected in law, so that every participant in society may benefit from those rights should they ever be needed.
    - Nursie 5y ago
      Indeed, and I'm saying there should be a damned good reason to force business to do it. Those others are damned good reasons. I'm not seeing it here.
  - undersuit 5y ago
    If you're not going to service black people I might just have to think you are a racist. Just like if you refuse to serve the handicapped or LGBTQ I might think you are bigoted. And if you refuse to service people that use cash I might also make some further assumptions.
    - Nursie 5y ago
      Unspecified ones that aren't anything like those other categories then? Seems about right.
  - throwaway48375 5y ago
    >US society is very backward in its attitudes to banking and payments, and in giving access to banking to everyone ironic

It is a matter of principle.

by drsnow 5y ago

It is a matter of principle.

As a small business owner, why do I need to deal with the extra expense of accepting handicapped customers? I need to build a ramp, take preemptive measures to make it accessible in the weather, take time to wait for them to wheel across the office, take time to teach my employees how to be accommodating of them, all sorts of extra costs in staffing or just plain time. And all for a fraction of a percentage of my customer base. It just doesn't make sense and I don't see why I should carry that burden.

Nursie 5y ago
And if we put 'black people' in there you could make me look like a racist too! Wow. There are many reasons your allegory doesn't apply - 'people who want to pay cash' are not a protected class. Serving people with disabilities doesn't put me at risk of theft either, nor does it increase my banking costs. You're going to have to show some pretty good evidence of a positive social outcome to make this persuasive, because it is adding a big burden to business. (And unbanked figures in the US are not that - US society is very backward in its attitudes to banking and payments, and in giving access to banking to everyone)
- sneak 5y ago
  All protected classes are protected classes because society agreed that they should be and codified those beliefs into law. The argument that is being made is that people who want to pay cash should be a protected class, with their ability to transact protected in law, so that every participant in society may benefit from those rights should they ever be needed.
  - Nursie 5y ago
    Indeed, and I'm saying there should be a damned good reason to force business to do it. Those others are damned good reasons. I'm not seeing it here.
- undersuit 5y ago
  If you're not going to service black people I might just have to think you are a racist. Just like if you refuse to serve the handicapped or LGBTQ I might think you are bigoted. And if you refuse to service people that use cash I might also make some further assumptions.
  - Nursie 5y ago
    Unspecified ones that aren't anything like those other categories then? Seems about right.
- throwaway48375 5y ago
  >US society is very backward in its attitudes to banking and payments, and in giving access to banking to everyone ironic