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Just curious which of these you'd consider annoying vs. something more than annoying. This isn't just a lazy slippery slope line of argument, but rather an inqu

Just curious which of these you'd consider annoying vs. something more than annoying. This isn't just a lazy slippery slope line of argument, but rather an inquiry to see what the absolute limit might be for the most tolerant 1% of the HN population. I'm genuinely curious what is the most extreme situation for which someone would still say "Oh that's quite annoying, but still acceptable." a) What if it was two confirmation popups before you had to leave the page? b) Three confirmation popups? c) What if it let you navigate away for about 10 seconds, but then immediately reloaded the last Luxottica page you were on. It only does this once. d) What if it let you navigate away for about 10 seconds, but then immediately reloaded the last Luxottica page you were on. It does this 2-3 times before it stops redirecting you back and lets you browse freely again. e) What if it required you to complete a short 5-30 second interactive engagement advertisement-game activity popup before you could leave instead of just clicking "OK I really want to leave". f) What if it never let you leave unless you quit the browser but you could open other tabs. g) What if it controlled your browser in such a way that you couldn't quit the browser, and it maximized the window. You can still put other windows on top of it but when you close them, the luxottica store is behind everything until you shut down the whole computer. h) What if it loaded that page which you can't close every time you started the browser. Only reinstalling the browser makes this stop, until you visit the Luxottica website again and it reloads this functionality again. i) What if it automatically loaded this page as your desktop background and required downloading a special tool from GitHub to get rid of it. j) What if it automatically rebranded your entire computer to display Gucci logos throughout the UI. Reinstalling the operating system is the only way to fix it.

rahimnathwani 5y ago
I said the popup was annoying but not deceitful. Those are two orthogonal axes. Your question is about what's acceptable. My answer is: 1. If the site tricks me (makes me take an action that I would not have taken if the site had not misled me), that's unacceptable. So, roughly any degree of deceit is unacceptable to me. 2. If the site stops me from switching/closing tabs, or changes system settings (like the ones you describe) without me being cognizant of agreeing, that's unacceptable. Showing 3 popups within a tab when I'm about to close it: that's annoying and douchy, and probably won't work on me, but I won't hate you for it. From your list, c-j would definitely make me hate you. a and b might be OK if you're presenting me better offers (e.g. 10% off the first time, then 15%, finally 20% off the third time).
- gpderetta 5y ago
  > Showing 3 popups within a tab when I'm about to close it: that's annoying and douchy, and probably won't work on me, but I won't hate you for it. That would be harassment. Not even borderline. How would you react if it were to happen on a physical shop?

rahimnathwani 5y ago

I said the popup was annoying but not deceitful. Those are two orthogonal axes. Your question is about what's acceptable. My answer is: 1. If the site tricks me (makes me take an action that I would not have taken if the site had not misled me), that's unacceptable. So, roughly any degree of deceit is unacceptable to me. 2. If the site stops me from switching/closing tabs, or changes system settings (like the ones you describe) without me being cognizant of agreeing, that's unacceptable. Showing 3 popups within a tab when I'm about to close it: that's annoying and douchy, and probably won't work on me, but I won't hate you for it. From your list, c-j would definitely make me hate you. a and b might be OK if you're presenting me better offers (e.g. 10% off the first time, then 15%, finally 20% off the third time).

gpderetta 5y ago
> Showing 3 popups within a tab when I'm about to close it: that's annoying and douchy, and probably won't work on me, but I won't hate you for it. That would be harassment. Not even borderline. How would you react if it were to happen on a physical shop?