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Why don't large companies use it for updates? I have a lot of trouble downloading the 10+ gigabyte IOS downloads on DSL for some reason but torrenting works fin

Why don't large companies use it for updates? I have a lot of trouble downloading the 10+ gigabyte IOS downloads on DSL for some reason but torrenting works fine for larger files and stopping and resuming does not break torrenting unlike Apple's update process.

llui85 5y ago
Musescore is planning to use P2P sharing to download sample libraries (>1gb) and updates in version 4 (coming in the next few months).
PaulHoule 5y ago
I don't know how they do it but when I download from Steam there are multiple streams and I get about 200% of the throughput of a single ADSL.
- duffyjp 5y ago
  I don't know if this would be of interest to you, but https://lancache.net/ https://lancache.net/ is really fun to setup. I assigned an old (unreliable) 500gb SSD to a Linux VM and run Lancache on it. A couple tweaks to Pi Hole and every system in your house will use with no configuration (and fallback to Steam if it's down). If you only have a single gaming system it won't matter but if you have a few it's fun to watch the second one get 100MB/s Steam downloads in a house with 20MB/s internet.
- Arie 5y ago
  Steam downloads are plain HTTP in separate file chunks. Easy to cache and load balance across connections.
  - powerslacker 5y ago
    They are also slow as dirt.
jaybeavers 5y ago
Taxes killed p2p... https://youtu.be/5-sF7N1bfv0 https://youtu.be/5-sF7N1bfv0
- jaybeavers 5y ago
  Or more clearly stated, tax havens and offshoring revenue killed p2p.
  - jldugger 5y ago
    Even without the tax havens, the jurisdictional issues seem killer -- if I pay for software in Kansas and download blocks from Texas, California, Puerto Rico and Canada, who all do I owe sales tax to?
jazzyjackson 5y ago
iirc Windows does have a way that computers on a shared network can share the update with each other. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-update-delivery-optimization-and-privacy-bf86a244-8f26-a3c7-a137-a43bfbe688e8 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-update-d...
retrac 5y ago
Some have. Blizzard used a variant of BitTorrent about 10 - 15 years ago to distribute the multi-gigabyte patches for their online games. Peak demand was very high with hundreds of thousands of users all on the same day. It was built into the game installer / launcher. I think they've switched away from that since. I remember it causing some consternation at the time given some people pay by the byte for network service and felt it was unfair.

llui85 5y ago

Musescore is planning to use P2P sharing to download sample libraries (>1gb) and updates in version 4 (coming in the next few months).

PaulHoule 5y ago

I don't know how they do it but when I download from Steam there are multiple streams and I get about 200% of the throughput of a single ADSL.

duffyjp 5y ago
I don't know if this would be of interest to you, but https://lancache.net/ https://lancache.net/ is really fun to setup. I assigned an old (unreliable) 500gb SSD to a Linux VM and run Lancache on it. A couple tweaks to Pi Hole and every system in your house will use with no configuration (and fallback to Steam if it's down). If you only have a single gaming system it won't matter but if you have a few it's fun to watch the second one get 100MB/s Steam downloads in a house with 20MB/s internet.
Arie 5y ago
Steam downloads are plain HTTP in separate file chunks. Easy to cache and load balance across connections.
- powerslacker 5y ago
  They are also slow as dirt.

jaybeavers 5y ago

Taxes killed p2p... https://youtu.be/5-sF7N1bfv0 https://youtu.be/5-sF7N1bfv0

jaybeavers 5y ago
Or more clearly stated, tax havens and offshoring revenue killed p2p.
- jldugger 5y ago
  Even without the tax havens, the jurisdictional issues seem killer -- if I pay for software in Kansas and download blocks from Texas, California, Puerto Rico and Canada, who all do I owe sales tax to?

jazzyjackson 5y ago

iirc Windows does have a way that computers on a shared network can share the update with each other. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-update-delivery-optimization-and-privacy-bf86a244-8f26-a3c7-a137-a43bfbe688e8 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-update-d...

retrac 5y ago

Some have. Blizzard used a variant of BitTorrent about 10 - 15 years ago to distribute the multi-gigabyte patches for their online games. Peak demand was very high with hundreds of thousands of users all on the same day. It was built into the game installer / launcher. I think they've switched away from that since. I remember it causing some consternation at the time given some people pay by the byte for network service and felt it was unfair.