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It is called war and it isn't the police doing it then, it is the military.

throw_nbvc1234 5y ago
The people out number the military by nearly 300-1. If you think a million soldiers are going to occupy the USA without resorting to obscene levels of violence (such that money is not your concern) you're a bit mistaken.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > The people out number the military by nearly 300-1. Armed military and paramilitary government agents, including active and reserve military and internal security services are about .9%,of US population, not the .3% you suggest: 1.4 million active, 800k reserve, 700k police, for 2.9 million of 330 million.
  - naniwaduni 5y ago
    Does the figure being "only" 100-1 instead of 300-1 really detract from the point? Would that whole 0.9% even stand on the same side?
  - throw_nbvc1234 5y ago
    Factors that push it in the other direction are desertion rates if we're talking domestic military occupation and fighting fitness -- how many police and reservists are actually able and willing to occupy a country with a likely insurgency for an undermined amount of time. Some percentage of that 2.9 mil number are not front line combatants. But also if the occupation is only in a single region then the denominator is much lower or if parts of the population side with the military.
- mycall 5y ago
  Yet the tribalism has effectively made that 300-1 ratio closer to 1:1. Well, maybe not that extreme but the rotten two-party system is failing us.
- heavyset_go 5y ago
  Plenty of people are going to side with whatever the army does, and it'll be a capital offense to interfere with them.
Liquix 5y ago
I believe the point is that it would require orders of magnitude more resources - a prohibitive amount of resources - for an overbearing government to strip citizens of physical assets, vs. the ease and subsequent temptation of doing so digitially
- rlt 5y ago
  Well, it’s easier to steal custodial digital asset accounts... It’s harder to steal properly secured non-custodial cryptocurrency/asset wallets. e.x. multisig or Shamir’s Secret Sharing, brainwallets or passphrase encrypted wallets, etc
throwaway22032 5y ago
Sure, so then you've declared war. Socratically, consider what would have happened if Trudeau would have had to send in the army to violently remove property from all of these people. I'll submit that a different, far more reasonable solution would have been arrived at.

The people out number the military by nearly 300-1. If you think a million soldiers are going to occupy the USA without resorting to obscene levels of violence (such that money is not your concern) you're a bit mistaken.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> The people out number the military by nearly 300-1. Armed military and paramilitary government agents, including active and reserve military and internal security services are about .9%,of US population, not the .3% you suggest: 1.4 million active, 800k reserve, 700k police, for 2.9 million of 330 million.
- naniwaduni 5y ago
  Does the figure being "only" 100-1 instead of 300-1 really detract from the point? Would that whole 0.9% even stand on the same side?
- throw_nbvc1234 5y ago
  Factors that push it in the other direction are desertion rates if we're talking domestic military occupation and fighting fitness -- how many police and reservists are actually able and willing to occupy a country with a likely insurgency for an undermined amount of time. Some percentage of that 2.9 mil number are not front line combatants. But also if the occupation is only in a single region then the denominator is much lower or if parts of the population side with the military.
mycall 5y ago
Yet the tribalism has effectively made that 300-1 ratio closer to 1:1. Well, maybe not that extreme but the rotten two-party system is failing us.
heavyset_go 5y ago
Plenty of people are going to side with whatever the army does, and it'll be a capital offense to interfere with them.

Liquix 5y ago

I believe the point is that it would require orders of magnitude more resources - a prohibitive amount of resources - for an overbearing government to strip citizens of physical assets, vs. the ease and subsequent temptation of doing so digitially

rlt 5y ago
Well, it’s easier to steal custodial digital asset accounts... It’s harder to steal properly secured non-custodial cryptocurrency/asset wallets. e.x. multisig or Shamir’s Secret Sharing, brainwallets or passphrase encrypted wallets, etc

throwaway22032 5y ago

Sure, so then you've declared war. Socratically, consider what would have happened if Trudeau would have had to send in the army to violently remove property from all of these people. I'll submit that a different, far more reasonable solution would have been arrived at.