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There are a couple of highly technical, highly capable game studios. Bethesda isn't one of them. Most game studios produce poorly optimized junk and are barely

There are a couple of highly technical, highly capable game studios. Bethesda isn't one of them. Most game studios produce poorly optimized junk and are barely managing to ship a working product.

JohnJamesRambo 5y ago
The question I ask is if Bethesda spent all the time on technical things would they make the amazing games they do? Give me a Bethesda game with bugs over any other smooth game with no heart any day. Every company has an attention budget to spend from.
- throwaway09223 5y ago
  Sure. There's nothing wrong with a non-technical focus.
- ralusek 5y ago
  Nobody wants them to spend energy on the technical side, we want them to use an existing engine like Unreal.
  - remexre 5y ago
    The incredible moddability of their RPGs, at least, is in large part to the flexibility of their engine. How many other games have active modding communities 12 years after launch as large as New Vegas'?
    - hanselot 5y ago
- LegitShady 5y ago
  hasn't bethesda been limping "the creation engine" which is really gamebryo along for the last 10 years? They are doing technical things, they're just doing them poorly.
oAlbe 5y ago
> There are a couple of highly technical, highly capable game studios. Which ones are those?
- Bayart 5y ago
  id Software is the one that comes to mind. Even with the Zenimax acquisition and Carmack's departure, they don't seem to have lost their engineering chops. Doom 4 and Doom Eternal are known to run incredibly well.
- ceravis 5y ago
  FromSoftware (Dark Souls/Sekiro) Polyphony Digital (Gran Turismo) Santa Monica Studio (God of War) Kojima Productions (Death Stranding) Larian Studios (Divinity Original Sin) Playdead (Inside/Limbo) Studios who choose/have the freedom to release a game "when it's ready", and/or have Sony/Microsoft backing. One can hope Microsoft's acquisition of Bethesda will change their ways, but having set the release date of Starfield (11/11/22) so far ahead of time doesn't inspire confidence... hopefully they'll have the freedom to push this back if needed.
- derac 5y ago
  Naughty Dog is (big) one that comes to mind immediately. Check out their GDC talks. GDC in general is a good place to find in depth technical talks from devs.
- iyasu 5y ago
  From the people I've talked to, Epic Games and Riot developers seem to have their shit together as far as being able to scale their backends to millions of players. Improbable too (although they're more of a game services studio), who are the creators of Thanos* * https://www.improbable.io/blog/thanos-prometheus-at-scale https://www.improbable.io/blog/thanos-prometheus-at-scale)
  - netheril96 5y ago
    > Riot developers The League of Legends client (which launches the actual game) is awful too. I don’t understand how it continuously burn 20% of CPU when doing nothing.

There are a couple of highly technical, highly capable game studios. Bethesda isn't one of them. Most game studios produce poorly optimized junk and are barely managing to ship a working product.

JohnJamesRambo 5y ago

The question I ask is if Bethesda spent all the time on technical things would they make the amazing games they do? Give me a Bethesda game with bugs over any other smooth game with no heart any day. Every company has an attention budget to spend from.

throwaway09223 5y ago
Sure. There's nothing wrong with a non-technical focus.
ralusek 5y ago
Nobody wants them to spend energy on the technical side, we want them to use an existing engine like Unreal.
- remexre 5y ago
  The incredible moddability of their RPGs, at least, is in large part to the flexibility of their engine. How many other games have active modding communities 12 years after launch as large as New Vegas'?
  - hanselot 5y ago
LegitShady 5y ago
hasn't bethesda been limping "the creation engine" which is really gamebryo along for the last 10 years? They are doing technical things, they're just doing them poorly.

oAlbe 5y ago

> There are a couple of highly technical, highly capable game studios. Which ones are those?

Bayart 5y ago
id Software is the one that comes to mind. Even with the Zenimax acquisition and Carmack's departure, they don't seem to have lost their engineering chops. Doom 4 and Doom Eternal are known to run incredibly well.
ceravis 5y ago
FromSoftware (Dark Souls/Sekiro) Polyphony Digital (Gran Turismo) Santa Monica Studio (God of War) Kojima Productions (Death Stranding) Larian Studios (Divinity Original Sin) Playdead (Inside/Limbo) Studios who choose/have the freedom to release a game "when it's ready", and/or have Sony/Microsoft backing. One can hope Microsoft's acquisition of Bethesda will change their ways, but having set the release date of Starfield (11/11/22) so far ahead of time doesn't inspire confidence... hopefully they'll have the freedom to push this back if needed.
derac 5y ago
Naughty Dog is (big) one that comes to mind immediately. Check out their GDC talks. GDC in general is a good place to find in depth technical talks from devs.
iyasu 5y ago
From the people I've talked to, Epic Games and Riot developers seem to have their shit together as far as being able to scale their backends to millions of players. Improbable too (although they're more of a game services studio), who are the creators of Thanos* * https://www.improbable.io/blog/thanos-prometheus-at-scale https://www.improbable.io/blog/thanos-prometheus-at-scale)
- netheril96 5y ago
  > Riot developers The League of Legends client (which launches the actual game) is awful too. I don’t understand how it continuously burn 20% of CPU when doing nothing.