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US government actions are probably also to blame for the cases in Afghanistan & Pakistan. The CIA setup a fake vaccination clinic in their effort to catch Bin L

US government actions are probably also to blame for the cases in Afghanistan & Pakistan. The CIA setup a fake vaccination clinic in their effort to catch Bin Laden [1]. Another factor is just that eradicating polio with the current vaccines is hard. The oral vaccine mutates in around one in a million cases to become effectively wild polio (some years this accounts for most of the polio cases). The fully inactivated injected version is non-sterilizing: it prevents poliomyelitis but still allows for gut infection: eradicating the disease but not the virus. [1] https://qmro.qmul.ac.uk/xmlui/handle/123456789/25135 https://qmro.qmul.ac.uk/xmlui/handle/123456789/25135

laxmin 5y ago
Sorry, this is simply not true. Anti-polio-vaccination has been endemic in the region for so many decades. Long before the US proxy war in Afghanistan against the USSR.
Teever 5y ago
> US government actions are probably also to blame for the cases in Afghanistan & Pakistan. The CIA setup a fake vaccination clinic in their effort to catch Bin Laden [1]. So, I agree that this is obviously a heinous thing to do because of the unintended consequences that we are now going to be dealing with forever, but I understand the motivation. With that said, Out of all the evil shit that has come out of CIA why did knowledge of this one become public and why did it become public so soon? We wouldnt be facing these issues if someone had just kept their damn mouth shut.
- throwaway0a5e 5y ago
  >With that said, Out of all the evil shit that has come out of CIA why did knowledge of this one become public and why did it become public so soon? Because it wasn't a "fake" vaccination clinic. They legitimately vaccinated people. And the shared it because they didn't see much wrong with it "look at the good we were doing while trying to find Bin-Laden" or something like that. Basically the people who decided whether to make that stuff public deal in so much heinous stuff they didn't see how the public might not like their vaccine shenanigans.
  - ceejayoz 5y ago
    The CIA didn't decide to make it public; the Pakistanis discovered it during their post-raid investigation.
    - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
      Regardless of which party broke the news the CIA had no problem talking about it like it was a good thing back when they were boasting about all the I's they dotted and T's they crossed to make sure "this ways the guy" prior to the raid.

laxmin 5y ago

Sorry, this is simply not true. Anti-polio-vaccination has been endemic in the region for so many decades. Long before the US proxy war in Afghanistan against the USSR.

Teever 5y ago

> US government actions are probably also to blame for the cases in Afghanistan & Pakistan. The CIA setup a fake vaccination clinic in their effort to catch Bin Laden [1]. So, I agree that this is obviously a heinous thing to do because of the unintended consequences that we are now going to be dealing with forever, but I understand the motivation. With that said, Out of all the evil shit that has come out of CIA why did knowledge of this one become public and why did it become public so soon? We wouldnt be facing these issues if someone had just kept their damn mouth shut.

throwaway0a5e 5y ago
>With that said, Out of all the evil shit that has come out of CIA why did knowledge of this one become public and why did it become public so soon? Because it wasn't a "fake" vaccination clinic. They legitimately vaccinated people. And the shared it because they didn't see much wrong with it "look at the good we were doing while trying to find Bin-Laden" or something like that. Basically the people who decided whether to make that stuff public deal in so much heinous stuff they didn't see how the public might not like their vaccine shenanigans.
- ceejayoz 5y ago
  The CIA didn't decide to make it public; the Pakistanis discovered it during their post-raid investigation.
  - throwaway0a5e 5y ago
    Regardless of which party broke the news the CIA had no problem talking about it like it was a good thing back when they were boasting about all the I's they dotted and T's they crossed to make sure "this ways the guy" prior to the raid.