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> I think Canadians have more faith in our institutions, particularly the courts, to remain apolitical. Speak for yourself. Also consider that an estimated 9%

> I think Canadians have more faith in our institutions, particularly the courts, to remain apolitical. Speak for yourself. Also consider that an estimated 9% of all Canadians live abroad (mostly in the US and Europe), including up to 25% of professionals in certain industries (doctors, for example, and I'm sure tech is up there too). Lots of Canadians don't have faith in our institutions. Unfortunately, moving away is easier than changing the docile Canadian mentality and is a better individual choice. Edit - and for comparison purposes around 1.7% of Americans live abroad.

kingofpandora 5y ago
Are you suggesting that 9% of Canadians live abroad because they don't have faith in national institutions? I'm one of that 9% and I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth.
- Mikeb85 5y ago
  Institutions means more than courts... Most Canadians I imagine live abroad for economic reasons. But that in itself is a failure of our institutions; an economy is a reflection of the set of rules created by the government. Anyhow, some examples: - Police, it's obvious they can't do their jobs. Between inability to clear protests, all our cities being taken over by crackheads, it's failed. - Courts: basically catch and release. Murder regularly gets plead down to manslaughter with pathetic sentences - Municipalities: make starting a physical business damn near impossible. Tons of red tape and random fees, then you get taxed to hell because homeowners can't possibly pay for their share... - Healthcare: it's a joke. Worst of any country in our income bracket yet Canadians inexplicably think it's not shit. - Bank of Canada: literally went out and said they're propping up house prices - Feds: literally said they are bringing in immigrants to reduce wage inflation ie. Prevent wage growth. Trudeau senior capped wage increases for awhile while in power... Tons more examples of failed institutions in this country... So tell me, why don't you live in Canada?
  - kingofpandora 5y ago
    I want to live near extended family for a while and have another life experience. Living abroad doesn't mean it's better than Canada but that I want to experience something different for a while. I'll be back ... None of the issues you listed stand out at all to someone born in Canada but who has lived in 5 countries (mix of very rich, middle income and poor). Ok, I admit the housing price situation bothers me.
SECProto 5y ago
> Speak for yourself. Also consider that an estimated 9% of all Canadians live abroad I was speaking for myself, as I see it, as are you. Note that I was one of the 9% living abroad for ~3 years. > the docile Canadian mentality I rather disagree with this supposed generalization > moving away is [..] a better individual choice Yes, for those who are more professionally desirable (doctors, tech, other professionals as you mention), moving to the US in particular is the "better individual choice", in that you can earn a better living. I certainly could, but I prefer to live here with my fellow docile Canadians.

kingofpandora 5y ago

Are you suggesting that 9% of Canadians live abroad because they don't have faith in national institutions? I'm one of that 9% and I can tell you that you couldn't be further from the truth.

Mikeb85 5y ago
Institutions means more than courts... Most Canadians I imagine live abroad for economic reasons. But that in itself is a failure of our institutions; an economy is a reflection of the set of rules created by the government. Anyhow, some examples: - Police, it's obvious they can't do their jobs. Between inability to clear protests, all our cities being taken over by crackheads, it's failed. - Courts: basically catch and release. Murder regularly gets plead down to manslaughter with pathetic sentences - Municipalities: make starting a physical business damn near impossible. Tons of red tape and random fees, then you get taxed to hell because homeowners can't possibly pay for their share... - Healthcare: it's a joke. Worst of any country in our income bracket yet Canadians inexplicably think it's not shit. - Bank of Canada: literally went out and said they're propping up house prices - Feds: literally said they are bringing in immigrants to reduce wage inflation ie. Prevent wage growth. Trudeau senior capped wage increases for awhile while in power... Tons more examples of failed institutions in this country... So tell me, why don't you live in Canada?
- kingofpandora 5y ago
  I want to live near extended family for a while and have another life experience. Living abroad doesn't mean it's better than Canada but that I want to experience something different for a while. I'll be back ... None of the issues you listed stand out at all to someone born in Canada but who has lived in 5 countries (mix of very rich, middle income and poor). Ok, I admit the housing price situation bothers me.

SECProto 5y ago

> Speak for yourself. Also consider that an estimated 9% of all Canadians live abroad I was speaking for myself, as I see it, as are you. Note that I was one of the 9% living abroad for ~3 years. > the docile Canadian mentality I rather disagree with this supposed generalization > moving away is [..] a better individual choice Yes, for those who are more professionally desirable (doctors, tech, other professionals as you mention), moving to the US in particular is the "better individual choice", in that you can earn a better living. I certainly could, but I prefer to live here with my fellow docile Canadians.