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> Which is why it's been so stupid of the US and the EU to push for Ukraine's inclusion into the EU & NATO. This is an incredibly stupid (and false) thing of y
by agapon 5y ago
> Which is why it's been so stupid of the US and the EU to push for Ukraine's inclusion into the EU & NATO.
This is an incredibly stupid (and false) thing of you to say.
With all due respect and apologies.
As far as we, Ukrainians, see it, we are being encouraged to be "EU worthy" or "NATO worthy", but we are being constantly told that we are years (decades) from joining either.
- busterarm 5y agoThese things don't happen overnight. The expressed plan has always been for your country to join in the 2030s. I'm saying it's been stupid/political suicide for the US and EU because they've both already made it clear that there is next to no strategic value of including Ukraine in these partnerships. It shows the weakness of the EU itself because it exposes the tiered importance of member states and how some just aren't. I think the best thing for all parties involved would have been to maintain Ukraine as a neutral buffer state and make sure that it has a thriving, rich economy. Because the alternative is the inevitable angering of Putin, who will not be made to look weak on a world stage. He would rather destroy your state's entire economy than have Russia look like it's not the dominant state in the region. If you don't believe that the EU has been pushing for you to join, just read the various drafts of the Vilinus Summit joint declaration that went unsigned.