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Which rights were stripped of citizens exactly?

smaryjerry 5y ago
I’m not sure what rights Canadians have but something sounds wrong when they will freeze your bank account before even telling you what you’ve been accused of, let alone given you a chance to defend yourself.
srcreigh 5y ago
Do Canadians have a right to peaceful protest? Any form of protest is illegal on Ottawa right now (except I guess protest by citizens of Ottawa). Imo, the government must provide instructions for how to legally protest in Ottawa. (No I don't support the illegal activities. But the government in stopping illegal activities is also preventing peaceful protests.)
- rescripting 5y ago
  Yes, we absolutely do. Smaller protests are ongoing right now in Ottawa by the same group(s) that set up at parliament. They're totally legal, because they're not breaking any laws. The big hoopla down on Wellington _was_ breaking _many_ laws. The municipality was unable to disperse it with the resources at hand, and so voila, emergencies act.
  - srcreigh 5y ago
    Thanks. I've been so curious about this - the news gives the opposite impression. I haven't been able to find any news media about ongoing legal protests in Ottawa (ie today/yesterday/Sunday). Do you know of any?
    - rescripting 5y ago
      A smaller demonstration outside the War Museum was ongoing Sunday and Monday [1], I think there were like 3 people left there today. The authorities did not interfere since the protest was peaceful and lawful. Many of the more hardcore members of the convoy have moved just outside of town to Arnprior and a nearby truckstop. [2][3] [1] https://twitter.com/RevengeBunny/status/1495677761578536960 https://twitter.com/RevengeBunny/status/1495677761578536960 [2] https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1495847634321514498?s=20&t=yWk-fkBVYvW8v4pXZiO2TA https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1495847634321514498?s=2... [3] https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/1495494545873817610 https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/149549454587381761...
- hndamien 5y ago
  If a protest is authorised and legal in the eyes of those that you are protesting, is it really going to be an effective protest?
  - mrguyorama 5y ago
    No, but if you are knowingly committing crimes as part of your protest, that falls under civil disobedience, which assumes you are willing to "do the time" for your crimes. It's not typically expected that you commit crimes in the name of a cause and then just go home and live your life normally.
    - hndamien 5y ago
      Yes, however the injustice is that only one side appears to be doing the time for laws broken.
xdennis 5y ago
Universal Declaration of Human Rights: > 15.2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property. People who donated had all their money confiscated by Castro.

I’m not sure what rights Canadians have but something sounds wrong when they will freeze your bank account before even telling you what you’ve been accused of, let alone given you a chance to defend yourself.

srcreigh 5y ago

Do Canadians have a right to peaceful protest? Any form of protest is illegal on Ottawa right now (except I guess protest by citizens of Ottawa). Imo, the government must provide instructions for how to legally protest in Ottawa. (No I don't support the illegal activities. But the government in stopping illegal activities is also preventing peaceful protests.)

rescripting 5y ago
Yes, we absolutely do. Smaller protests are ongoing right now in Ottawa by the same group(s) that set up at parliament. They're totally legal, because they're not breaking any laws. The big hoopla down on Wellington _was_ breaking _many_ laws. The municipality was unable to disperse it with the resources at hand, and so voila, emergencies act.
- srcreigh 5y ago
  Thanks. I've been so curious about this - the news gives the opposite impression. I haven't been able to find any news media about ongoing legal protests in Ottawa (ie today/yesterday/Sunday). Do you know of any?
  - rescripting 5y ago
    A smaller demonstration outside the War Museum was ongoing Sunday and Monday [1], I think there were like 3 people left there today. The authorities did not interfere since the protest was peaceful and lawful. Many of the more hardcore members of the convoy have moved just outside of town to Arnprior and a nearby truckstop. [2][3] [1] https://twitter.com/RevengeBunny/status/1495677761578536960 https://twitter.com/RevengeBunny/status/1495677761578536960 [2] https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1495847634321514498?s=20&t=yWk-fkBVYvW8v4pXZiO2TA https://twitter.com/davidakin/status/1495847634321514498?s=2... [3] https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/1495494545873817610 https://twitter.com/Gray_Mackenzie/status/149549454587381761...
hndamien 5y ago
If a protest is authorised and legal in the eyes of those that you are protesting, is it really going to be an effective protest?
- mrguyorama 5y ago
  No, but if you are knowingly committing crimes as part of your protest, that falls under civil disobedience, which assumes you are willing to "do the time" for your crimes. It's not typically expected that you commit crimes in the name of a cause and then just go home and live your life normally.
  - hndamien 5y ago
    Yes, however the injustice is that only one side appears to be doing the time for laws broken.

xdennis 5y ago

Universal Declaration of Human Rights: > 15.2. No one shall be arbitrarily deprived of his property. People who donated had all their money confiscated by Castro.