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And yet, everyone suffers because of it. We have endless SSN breaches because at the end of the day, having a unique ID for people is really valuable! We could

by xxpor 5y ago

And yet, everyone suffers because of it. We have endless SSN breaches because at the end of the day, having a unique ID for people is really valuable! We could have something way safer, but we get stuck with the status quo which satisfies no one.

aaaaaaaaata 5y ago
Use revokable public/private keypairs. The two options presented before my comment are not the only ones.
- xxpor 5y ago
  I'd be perfectly fine with that. My ideal scenario would essentially be a national ID that's also a smart card with u2f/federation. I realize there's a ton of details with accessibility but like, we have the technology.
jcadam 5y ago
There are ways to solve that problem whilst still protecting privacy, but there's no benefit in that for the ruling class. Once the infrastructure is in place, we all know governments would eventually use it to track all sorts of additional information/activity about us.
- vineyardmike 5y ago
  > use it to track all sorts of additional information/activity about us. They already do! There is so many quasi-national tracking and gov approved monopolies that they already get what they need. Everywhere is tracked with license plate scanners, so you can't go anywhere. Everyone realistically uses VISA or mastercard, so you can't buy anything. If you don't you're still probably banked and connected to credit agencies, so you can still be tracked. Good luck getting cash without the gov knowing. Just look at the IRS data. You register with the gov to drive, so your IDed already by someone. NSA et al. track god knows what about you across the internet and abroad, and where they don't go some ad network goes. I think the only thing that we don't track is guns... and thats probably something we should track.
  - jcadam 5y ago
    Everytime you buy a gun, a background check is run (via NICS). Records of said checks are supposed to be destroyed.... are they really?
pessimizer 5y ago
It's strange how all this stuff worked when the records were on paper and plenty of people had been born at home and rarely recorded. A world of endless danger which satisfied no one.

by xxpor 5y ago

aaaaaaaaata 5y ago

Use revokable public/private keypairs. The two options presented before my comment are not the only ones.

xxpor 5y ago
I'd be perfectly fine with that. My ideal scenario would essentially be a national ID that's also a smart card with u2f/federation. I realize there's a ton of details with accessibility but like, we have the technology.

jcadam 5y ago

There are ways to solve that problem whilst still protecting privacy, but there's no benefit in that for the ruling class. Once the infrastructure is in place, we all know governments would eventually use it to track all sorts of additional information/activity about us.

vineyardmike 5y ago
> use it to track all sorts of additional information/activity about us. They already do! There is so many quasi-national tracking and gov approved monopolies that they already get what they need. Everywhere is tracked with license plate scanners, so you can't go anywhere. Everyone realistically uses VISA or mastercard, so you can't buy anything. If you don't you're still probably banked and connected to credit agencies, so you can still be tracked. Good luck getting cash without the gov knowing. Just look at the IRS data. You register with the gov to drive, so your IDed already by someone. NSA et al. track god knows what about you across the internet and abroad, and where they don't go some ad network goes. I think the only thing that we don't track is guns... and thats probably something we should track.
- jcadam 5y ago
  Everytime you buy a gun, a background check is run (via NICS). Records of said checks are supposed to be destroyed.... are they really?

pessimizer 5y ago

It's strange how all this stuff worked when the records were on paper and plenty of people had been born at home and rarely recorded. A world of endless danger which satisfied no one.