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Maybe he's looking to get a more thoughtful analysis than can be had in the twitter verse. It is a common problem and might be aided by better UI or custom fea

by starkd 5y ago

Maybe he's looking to get a more thoughtful analysis than can be had in the twitter verse. It is a common problem and might be aided by better UI or custom features to encourage better discourse. It's also a question of lifestyle. That being said, I am admittedly out of ideas on this one. Never been a fan of twitter.

a4isms 5y ago
Absolutely positively one would expect different outcomes here than there. Even if the exact same people see this comment here as there, the platforms systemically optimize for different outcomes. For example, this forum is moderated, Twitter is almost completely unmoderated. This forum allows for longer replies but bans pictures. Twitter forces you to create threads, but allows pictures.
- starkd 5y ago
  This platform is definitely more awkward to use, but, in many ways, I find it to be a feature. I rarely comment, but even the upvoting/downvoting/flagging I find to be a distraction. NOtifications are definitely convenient, but they no doubt encourage arguments that go on too long. HN doesn't make for an easy back and forth.
  - a4isms 5y ago
    It has other anti-yelling-past-each-other features. For example, after a comment is made, there's a delay before anybody is allowed to reply. I doubt anybody in the middle of an argument would cool down and change their minds, but it does provide an opportunity to go look at something else and forget about going back and dropping that zinger you planned to launch...
jacobr1 5y ago
I suspect there is something about the social dynamics of a small community vs. a widely used public network. Social network platforms (used loosely) have had this issue for a long time - consider "eternal september" and usenet. Reddit has some sub-reddits that are well moderated and have great contributors, as does HN (at least at its best). I'm not sure what twitter could do that wouldn't also reduce its audience and overall engagement. And one of the big factors with a small community are social norms - these aren't technical - though the platform can influence the incentives to maintain the norms.

by starkd 5y ago

a4isms 5y ago

Absolutely positively one would expect different outcomes here than there. Even if the exact same people see this comment here as there, the platforms systemically optimize for different outcomes. For example, this forum is moderated, Twitter is almost completely unmoderated. This forum allows for longer replies but bans pictures. Twitter forces you to create threads, but allows pictures.

starkd 5y ago
This platform is definitely more awkward to use, but, in many ways, I find it to be a feature. I rarely comment, but even the upvoting/downvoting/flagging I find to be a distraction. NOtifications are definitely convenient, but they no doubt encourage arguments that go on too long. HN doesn't make for an easy back and forth.
- a4isms 5y ago
  It has other anti-yelling-past-each-other features. For example, after a comment is made, there's a delay before anybody is allowed to reply. I doubt anybody in the middle of an argument would cool down and change their minds, but it does provide an opportunity to go look at something else and forget about going back and dropping that zinger you planned to launch...

jacobr1 5y ago

I suspect there is something about the social dynamics of a small community vs. a widely used public network. Social network platforms (used loosely) have had this issue for a long time - consider "eternal september" and usenet. Reddit has some sub-reddits that are well moderated and have great contributors, as does HN (at least at its best). I'm not sure what twitter could do that wouldn't also reduce its audience and overall engagement. And one of the big factors with a small community are social norms - these aren't technical - though the platform can influence the incentives to maintain the norms.