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You are missing part of the point, in my view. There are people who don't have access to the content. Simple as that. Good content is irrelevant if it cannot b

You are missing part of the point, in my view. There are people who don't have access to the content. Simple as that. Good content is irrelevant if it cannot be accessed. Yes, quite often a good samaritan will come and provide a workaround link, but there are two problems with that: 1. The immediate one which is that, if the canonically accessible article is at a separate link, then this is the link that should be the main article. Not the pay/loginwalled one. 2. The ethical one: should we as a community be promoting content controlled by a closed platform (and thus endorsing/promoting/requiring subscription to that platform)? There's a reason you don't get facebook stories on HN. Up until now twitter was not closed like facebook, but now it is.

jacquesm 5y ago
> You are missing part of the point, in my view. I think you are missing part of the rest of this thread. > There are people who don't have access to the content. Simple as that. Good content is irrelevant if it cannot be accessed. No, the same goes for paywalled links, and HN definitely allows those. Besides that Twitter can be a very good source for things that are happening as we speak with the rest of the web playing catch-up. > 1. The immediate one which is that, if the canonically accessible article is at a separate link, then this is the link that should be the main article. Not the pay/loginwalled one. That's not for you to decide. HN favors the original content, for a reason. > 2. The ethical one: should we as a community be promoting content controlled by a closed platform (and thus endorsing/promoting/requiring subscription to that platform)? There's a reason you don't get facebook stories on HN. Up until now twitter was not closed like facebook, but now it is. Twitter is still far more open than Facebook. Possibly there will come a time that that is not the case but for now it is. You can still read tweets without being logged in.
- tpoacher 5y ago
  > Twitter is still far more open than Facebook. Possibly there will come a time that that is not the case but for now it is. You can still read tweets without being logged in. No I can't. That's the exact point being discussed, the recent changes to Twitter which block access to non-subscribers.
  - jacquesm 5y ago
    Interesting, I have no such problems. Both in anonymous windows as well as browsers that have never been logged into twitter I can see linked tweets. Wonder what's up with that if it is location related or something else.

jacquesm 5y ago

> You are missing part of the point, in my view. I think you are missing part of the rest of this thread. > There are people who don't have access to the content. Simple as that. Good content is irrelevant if it cannot be accessed. No, the same goes for paywalled links, and HN definitely allows those. Besides that Twitter can be a very good source for things that are happening as we speak with the rest of the web playing catch-up. > 1. The immediate one which is that, if the canonically accessible article is at a separate link, then this is the link that should be the main article. Not the pay/loginwalled one. That's not for you to decide. HN favors the original content, for a reason. > 2. The ethical one: should we as a community be promoting content controlled by a closed platform (and thus endorsing/promoting/requiring subscription to that platform)? There's a reason you don't get facebook stories on HN. Up until now twitter was not closed like facebook, but now it is. Twitter is still far more open than Facebook. Possibly there will come a time that that is not the case but for now it is. You can still read tweets without being logged in.

tpoacher 5y ago
> Twitter is still far more open than Facebook. Possibly there will come a time that that is not the case but for now it is. You can still read tweets without being logged in. No I can't. That's the exact point being discussed, the recent changes to Twitter which block access to non-subscribers.
- jacquesm 5y ago
  Interesting, I have no such problems. Both in anonymous windows as well as browsers that have never been logged into twitter I can see linked tweets. Wonder what's up with that if it is location related or something else.