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Don't know why you got downvoted. All these Americans in this thread can have all the opinions they want. They're not getting screwed by high gas prices right n

Don't know why you got downvoted. All these Americans in this thread can have all the opinions they want. They're not getting screwed by high gas prices right now.

mercutio2 5y ago
Gas prices are extremely high for Americans this year, also. But it’s true that Russia isn’t a driving force in that.
- lostmsu 5y ago
  I think "extremely high" is quite an overstatement.
- stjohnswarts 5y ago
  Gas/fuel prices are a global commodity, of course the Ukraine conflict will affect Americans, not as much as Europe, but Americans will get a lot of it as well. The middle east is probably loving the influx of income.
  - mercutio2 5y ago
    Gas in this case means methane, right? While it’s technically true that there’s shipping of LNG outside of pipelines, my impression is that the market for methane isn’t currently very global. My point was that the resurgence of economies and cold winters has driven up US methane prices to 2-2.5x where they were a year ago. I was specifically responding to a commenter implying Americans aren’t experiencing difficulty paying for heating this year. How much higher are German rates for methane?
oytis 5y ago
Not everyone in Europe is in a comfortable position where they can care about gas prices more than they care about Russian expansion.
- CRConrad 5y ago
  > Not everyone in Europe is in a comfortable position where they can care about gas prices more than they care about Russian expansion. OTOH, not everyone in Europe is in a comfortable position where they can care about Russian expansion more than they care about heating their home.
  - oytis 5y ago
    Pretty much everyone actually. What is the worst consequence of not being able to pay for the heating? In the very extreme case, which could affect a tiny minority of the poorest people, you get broke, and have to apply for welfare. Maybe you'll have to use electric heating and/or wear warm clothes inside for a while. That's about it - nothing comparable to what Ukrainians have to endure.
stjohnswarts 5y ago
It's a global market, we get hit by high gas prices too. Almost half of Europeans gas prices are fuel taxes anyway. Talk your governments into backing off those for a while.

Don't know why you got downvoted. All these Americans in this thread can have all the opinions they want. They're not getting screwed by high gas prices right now.

mercutio2 5y ago

Gas prices are extremely high for Americans this year, also. But it’s true that Russia isn’t a driving force in that.

lostmsu 5y ago
I think "extremely high" is quite an overstatement.
stjohnswarts 5y ago
Gas/fuel prices are a global commodity, of course the Ukraine conflict will affect Americans, not as much as Europe, but Americans will get a lot of it as well. The middle east is probably loving the influx of income.
- mercutio2 5y ago
  Gas in this case means methane, right? While it’s technically true that there’s shipping of LNG outside of pipelines, my impression is that the market for methane isn’t currently very global. My point was that the resurgence of economies and cold winters has driven up US methane prices to 2-2.5x where they were a year ago. I was specifically responding to a commenter implying Americans aren’t experiencing difficulty paying for heating this year. How much higher are German rates for methane?

oytis 5y ago

Not everyone in Europe is in a comfortable position where they can care about gas prices more than they care about Russian expansion.

CRConrad 5y ago
> Not everyone in Europe is in a comfortable position where they can care about gas prices more than they care about Russian expansion. OTOH, not everyone in Europe is in a comfortable position where they can care about Russian expansion more than they care about heating their home.
- oytis 5y ago
  Pretty much everyone actually. What is the worst consequence of not being able to pay for the heating? In the very extreme case, which could affect a tiny minority of the poorest people, you get broke, and have to apply for welfare. Maybe you'll have to use electric heating and/or wear warm clothes inside for a while. That's about it - nothing comparable to what Ukrainians have to endure.

stjohnswarts 5y ago

It's a global market, we get hit by high gas prices too. Almost half of Europeans gas prices are fuel taxes anyway. Talk your governments into backing off those for a while.