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One fun thing we discovered an outage or two ago: Zoom, which is likely already on your computer too, has a very Slack-like Chat feature. Open up the Zoom app,
by nate 5y ago
One fun thing we discovered an outage or two ago: Zoom, which is likely already on your computer too, has a very Slack-like Chat feature. Open up the Zoom app, then click the Chat icon in the top header. You probably missed it this entire time. You can make rooms, DMs, animated gifs, the works :)
- rythmshifter03 5y agoPlease don't encourage the use of Zoom, they already have enough market share they don't deserve after lying through their teeth to the public on multiple occasions.
- bitexploder 5y agoWhat alternatives do you recommend? As far as I can tell none of the major video conferencing solutions are made by companies I think are any more trustworthy than Zoom at this point. Plus Google and others ran a focused assassination campaign against Zoom at the start of the pandemic to claw some of their market share.
- djbusby 5y agoMattermost has replaced Slack here and I don't miss it at all. Jitsi Meet is pretty good for a/v
- cure 5y agoThere is Matrix (https://matrix.org https://matrix.org) which now integrates nicely with Jitsi (https://jitsi.org https://jitsi.org). There's also BigBlueButton (https://bigbluebutton.org https://bigbluebutton.org).
- bun_at_work 5y agoGoogle is certainly more secure than Zoom to outside attacks. Regardless of what Google chooses to do with your data, they do want to protect that data from everyone else, on your behalf. At least as much as any company can (government subpoena affects all companies).
- edgyquant 5y agoI don’t understand why zoom is so much more popular than Google meet. I never used zoom before my current company who uses Google meets for daily meetings and then zoom meeting for the biweekly review. No idea what advantages zoom is supposed to have.
- pkulak 5y agoI think Zoom just had a better sales team and went after corporate clients earlier. Now that no one is in the office, it seems silly, because Meet is just straight up a nicer experience on all fronts, but in the Old Days, no one ever got fired for putting Zoom hardware in a conference room.
- bun_at_work 5y agoIt seems like the popularity of Zoom is related to the singularity of the product's purpose. Zoom is a video conferencing service. Google is everything and the kitchen sink. So when the pandemic started, that worked in Zoom's favor, sadly.
- bitexploder 5y agoThick clients perform better than Google Meet in the browser in my experience.
- aftbit 5y agoMy team uses Slack for text and voice chat (huddles) and Jitsi Meet for free, in-browser video chat without signup required.
- MattRix 5y agoI know it’s not seen as a professional service, but Discord has great quality video chat (better than Zoom, for example). I don’t know if its privacy/security would hold up for larger companies but we use it in my tiny company with no issues at all.
- philote 5y agoAny recommendations on getting Discord notifications to reliably show up in a reasonable time on mobile? That's the one big issue I have with Discord. Otherwise I find it very useful.
- dmonitor 5y agoIf you have the desktop client up, you don't get mobile notifications. They've always worked fine for me so long as I don't set my status as do not disturb
- jrm4 5y agoDiscord is easily best quality for now, Matrix/Jitsi is easily best future vision. Everything else can go away.
- eurasiantiger 5y agoSelf-hosted Matrix
- 12ian34 5y agoJitsi[0] is excellent. [0]: https://meet.jit.si/ https://meet.jit.si/
- swyx 5y agowhat do you mean lying through their teeth? citation needed.
- Arch-TK 5y agoLol what? https://techtalk.pcmatic.com/2021/08/03/zoom-settlement/ https://techtalk.pcmatic.com/2021/08/03/zoom-settlement/ https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/30/21242421/zoom-300-million-users-incorrect-meeting-participants-statement https://www.theverge.com/2020/4/30/21242421/zoom-300-million...
- mirntyfirty 5y agoWikipedia has a few paragraphs dedicated to their lack of privacy, security, and other unethical telemetry practices. I believe it was a couple years ago when these stories maintained headline positions for a few weeks.
- suprfsat 5y ago"end to end encryption" means "it's encrypted at both ends"
- btown 5y agohttps://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2020/11/ftc-requires-zoom-enhance-its-security-practices-part-settlement https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/press-releases/2020/11/ftc-r... > In its complaint, the FTC alleged that, since at least 2016, Zoom misled users by touting that it offered “end-to-end, 256-bit encryption” to secure users’ communications, when in fact it provided a lower level of security... In reality, the FTC alleges, Zoom maintained the cryptographic keys that could allow Zoom to access the content of its customers’ meetings, and secured its Zoom Meetings, in part, with a lower level of encryption than promised. See also: https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-security-privacy-woes https://www.tomsguide.com/news/zoom-security-privacy-woes
- throwaway984393 5y agoThey can tell me they're the second coming of Christ as long as they make televideo work better than all the crap alternatives.
- Cerium 5y agoI find zoom chat to be reminiscent of AIM, it does not have the afforances that make slack a good business communication tool.
- selestify 5y agoWhat are Slack's affordances?
- Cerium 5y agoSlack does a good job with threading. The side panel allows you to watch a thread while you continue another conversation. It also puts together an above average notification system, where at a glance you can see if there is no new content, new content, or your name mentioned. It allows you to ignore slack without risk of missing somebody shouting for you.
- treesknees 5y agoOn the contrary, I find Slack threads to be very annoying for discovering/stumbling upon conversations. Your whole team could be having a new discussion within a thread and you'd never know unless you participated in the thread previously or somebody @'s you. Compare that to more IRC-like discussion where each message is posted to the channel. Sure, you may end up with contextual issues reminiscent of the IRC days, but at least everything is discoverable.
- duderific 5y ago> Your whole team could be having a new discussion within a thread and you'd never know unless you participated in the thread previously or somebody @'s you. That's kind of the point? You shouldn't be bothered unless you want to be. To me, a thread isn't necessarily supposed to be geared toward discoverability. You'll see the main topic hit the channel, and then you can choose to follow the thread if you like.
- bmhin 5y ago
- legofr 5y agoThat spyware thankfully isn't no mine, and if you're forced to use it (if you for whatever reason can't use Jitsi/Teams) then I strongly encourage you not to install the app and instead use the web version.
- Forbo 5y agoWhy is Slack considered spyware but not Teams?
- abletonlive 5y ago>Open up the Zoom app no thanks. I would never install zoom on any of my computers voluntarily.
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- KingMachiavelli 5y agoIt's strange but Zoom as chat was actually how I first used it. A whole year prior to the pandemic the place I worked (fairly large) they purchased Zoom as their internal chat tool.
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