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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments#Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deploym... They are only 64k+ inde

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deployments#Europe https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_deploym... They are only 64k+ indeed. But they are already inside EU, since WWII.

rosndo 5y ago
And most of those are far far away from the border. You might as well criticize Russia for having troops sitting in military bases near Moscow. But hey, I raise you Kaliningrad.
- rpadovani 5y ago
  Ah, you were talking about Ukraine specifically, not dislocating your troops in other countries, where the local population doesn't want you, 'cause you have the upper hand. My bad.
  - rosndo 5y ago
    I’d argue that the local populations are largely very happy with US presence in Europe. I know they’re very popular in Romania, being big spenders. Outside of Europe the US has obviously been up to a bunch of nasty shit, but I think we are talking about European decisionmaking here.
    - rpadovani 5y ago
      > I’d argue that the local populations are largely very happy with US presence in Europe. Not in Germany, where they have their biggest presence: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/deutsche-finden-abzug-der-us-soldaten-ueberwiegend-gut-16889268.html https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/deutsche-finden-a... Nor in Italy, where they have the second-biggest presence. But it is easy to understand, considering they kill civilians for fun, but get processed in US[0], and are responsible for countless violences in the cities where their bases are[1]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash [1]: https://www.vice.com/it/article/znjkke/vicenza-soldati-usa-stupro-391 https://www.vice.com/it/article/znjkke/vicenza-soldati-usa-s...
      - rosndo 5y ago
        I’d guess that the dissatisfaction with US troops in Germany goes up based on how far the polled people are from the closest base. It’s easy to be unhappy with some remote evils that aren’t significantly contributing to your local economy.

rosndo 5y ago

And most of those are far far away from the border. You might as well criticize Russia for having troops sitting in military bases near Moscow. But hey, I raise you Kaliningrad.

rpadovani 5y ago
Ah, you were talking about Ukraine specifically, not dislocating your troops in other countries, where the local population doesn't want you, 'cause you have the upper hand. My bad.
- rosndo 5y ago
  I’d argue that the local populations are largely very happy with US presence in Europe. I know they’re very popular in Romania, being big spenders. Outside of Europe the US has obviously been up to a bunch of nasty shit, but I think we are talking about European decisionmaking here.
  - rpadovani 5y ago
    > I’d argue that the local populations are largely very happy with US presence in Europe. Not in Germany, where they have their biggest presence: https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/deutsche-finden-abzug-der-us-soldaten-ueberwiegend-gut-16889268.html https://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/inland/deutsche-finden-a... Nor in Italy, where they have the second-biggest presence. But it is easy to understand, considering they kill civilians for fun, but get processed in US[0], and are responsible for countless violences in the cities where their bases are[1]. [0]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1998_Cavalese_cable_car_crash [1]: https://www.vice.com/it/article/znjkke/vicenza-soldati-usa-stupro-391 https://www.vice.com/it/article/znjkke/vicenza-soldati-usa-s...
    - rosndo 5y ago
      I’d guess that the dissatisfaction with US troops in Germany goes up based on how far the polled people are from the closest base. It’s easy to be unhappy with some remote evils that aren’t significantly contributing to your local economy.