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There's a lot of unnecessarily complicated recommendations here. It's really quite simple. 1: factory reset the TV 2: don't connect it to the Internet.
by kllrnohj 5y ago
There's a lot of unnecessarily complicated recommendations here. It's really quite simple.
1: factory reset the TV
2: don't connect it to the Internet.
3: use a decent set top box for all your streaming needs. Be it a console, Apple TV, Chromecast, or Nvidia shield (avoid the cheaper Android TV devices, those are heavily ad subsidized)
- fsflover 5y agohttps://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30428510 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30428510
- kllrnohj 5y ago1: not even a theoretical problem in many areas (requires open access wifi in range not restricted by a guest portal). 2: sounds fake AF. Proof or gtfo. TVs wifi squatting opens up some sketchy legal issues, that's the type of the thing company lawyers would shut down if it even made it that far. Unless of course there's an actual contract between say Comcast & LG granting authorization, but that then becomes the type of thing that should be a whole lot more probable than a random anecdote without evidence
- falcolas 5y ago> don't connect it to the Internet. Does a neighbor have an open wifi? They'll use that. Does a connected device have internet access? They'll try to use that (data over HDMI is available up to 48Gbit/s). There's also the possibility (though probably lower) that the device will come with its own 4G modem. Your data's worth a fair bit of money, after all (not that you will ever be allowed to sell it directly).
- downrightmike 5y agoYou should probably talk to your neighbor. Open wifi is dangerous
- tshaddox 5y agoAm I the only one who hasn’t encountered an open Wi-Fi access point in like 10 years?
- 20after4 5y agoThey still exist.
- iso1631 5y agoIf you land them on your own honeypot SSID, but with no access to the internet, will they move?
- unethical_ban 5y agoNot that you're wrong, but all of the things you mention should be illegal to force onto people. No device should be able to force themselves onto a data connection without consent.
- kllrnohj 5y agoIt's not only should be illegal it is actually illegal. Open wifi doesn't grant or imply authorization, and accessing a network without authorization is a crime
- 20after4 5y agoAnd yet my phone, in it's default state, will automatically connect to random open wifi that happens to be available in order to access the internet.
- Brian_K_White 5y agoIsn't that what that Amazon low bandwidth shared wireless thing does explicitly? It's not normal wifi but it provides public access to the internet via your hardware and your internet connection. Also don't a lot of cable modems have public wifi served from the equipment in your posession but not under your control or even knowledge? It's a seperate logical network but it's still your net connection and your (rented) hardware. Cars these days also have 4g connections that you can't even turn off even if you don't pay for the service like on-star. Probably there are countless examples by now of things coming with their own access, and the idea of opportunistic scanning for open networks vs, or in addition to an own 3g/4g modem is just an implementation detail.
- kllrnohj 5y ago> Does a connected device have internet access? They'll try to use that (data over HDMI is available up to 48Gbit/s). Ethernet over HDMI is exceedingly rare and would require the STB you trust to do that. Which none of them do. > There's also the possibility (though probably lower) that the device will come with its own 4G modem. Which they don't currently, and since margins on TVs are razer thin seems extraordinary unlikely to ever happen. Not when 95% of people are happy connecting their smart TV to the Internet anyway. But also trivially checked by a teardown, and if it ever happens trivially defeated with a faraday cage or just disconnecting the antenna
- coldpie 5y agoDo you have any evidence of any TV doing this, ever?
- gruez 5y ago>Does a neighbor have an open wifi? They'll use that. AFAIK this is a rumor that lacks concrete evidence.
- dncornholio 5y agotin-foil hat stuff or actually being done?
- apohn 5y ago100% This. I've got a smart TV (Android TV). Once a year or so I plug in an Ethernet to check for updates. Otherwise everything is done via an Apple TV.
- aaaaaaaaata 5y agoSo you only let it upload all of the speech to text it's potentially created of you once a year?