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I notice you carefully avoided mention of Korea. Were you hoping no one caught that China has dominated Korea for centuries? Or that there were failed attempts

I notice you carefully avoided mention of Korea. Were you hoping no one caught that China has dominated Korea for centuries? Or that there were failed attempts to conquer Japan? Incompetence doesn’t equal a peacenik attitude.

mytailorisrich 5y ago
I did not avoid anything. Korea is nearer China's "centre of gravity" and has obviously had very close interactions and was indeed a vassal state of China at some point following invasion by the Mongols. But China did not really invade it the way Japan did and it does not detract to my point. It's FUD to claim that China plans to invade its neighbours. Having a growing influence, sure, but it's quite different and they have along way to go before they can get even halfway to the level of control and influence the US have over many countries, for instance.
littlestymaar 5y ago
You can't be serious are you? In a discussion about the history of Japan Korea and China, arguing that China was “the bad guy”?! That being said, history is a poor proxy for future behavior: Japan is really unlikely to ever resume its aggressive expansionist policy, and it's not because China doesn't have a terrible track record of neighbors invasion that it will not start in this century. But that doesn't really excuse rewriting history…
- nindalf 5y ago
  You’re arguing in bad faith, or you simply didn’t read the comment I was replying to. That person was making an extraordinary claim - that China has been completely peaceful. I replied to that claim alone And here you are with vitriolic claims that I was rewriting history.
  - littlestymaar 5y ago
    > That person was making an extraordinary claim - that China has been completely peaceful. No, they did not say that. What they actually said: > This is just to point out that China is not historically as aggressive as we are in the West. Now talk about “bad faith”…

mytailorisrich 5y ago

I did not avoid anything. Korea is nearer China's "centre of gravity" and has obviously had very close interactions and was indeed a vassal state of China at some point following invasion by the Mongols. But China did not really invade it the way Japan did and it does not detract to my point. It's FUD to claim that China plans to invade its neighbours. Having a growing influence, sure, but it's quite different and they have along way to go before they can get even halfway to the level of control and influence the US have over many countries, for instance.

littlestymaar 5y ago

You can't be serious are you? In a discussion about the history of Japan Korea and China, arguing that China was “the bad guy”?! That being said, history is a poor proxy for future behavior: Japan is really unlikely to ever resume its aggressive expansionist policy, and it's not because China doesn't have a terrible track record of neighbors invasion that it will not start in this century. But that doesn't really excuse rewriting history…

nindalf 5y ago
You’re arguing in bad faith, or you simply didn’t read the comment I was replying to. That person was making an extraordinary claim - that China has been completely peaceful. I replied to that claim alone And here you are with vitriolic claims that I was rewriting history.
- littlestymaar 5y ago
  > That person was making an extraordinary claim - that China has been completely peaceful. No, they did not say that. What they actually said: > This is just to point out that China is not historically as aggressive as we are in the West. Now talk about “bad faith”…