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Why would you presume that individuals share blame or benefit with their groups? If one member of a group acts poorly, is it fair to penalize another member of
by everdrive 5y ago
Why would you presume that individuals share blame or benefit with their groups? If one member of a group acts poorly, is it fair to penalize another member of that group? If one member of a group is privileged, is it fair to penalize a non-privileged member of that group to "even out" the groups?
- oblio 5y agoBecause there are in-groups and out-groups and we're tribal animals, social animals. None of this is new, the Ancient Greeks knew this (zoon politikon). So your proposal is just to abandon the second group, am I right?
- marcellus23 5y agoYou didn’t answer his questions though? Why is it fair to penalize someone for the color of their skin? I thought the whole point is to make things better for people?
- oblio 5y ago> You didn’t answer his questions though? Ok, I'll answer you, but you won't like it. > Why is it fair to penalize someone for the color of their skin? Because it's already happening in real life... It's just not codified anymore, or it isn't codified in obvious ways (see crack cocaine vs cocaine). So this "penalizing" is just evening the scales. > I thought the whole point is to make things better for people? You need both the carrot and the stick. A dominant group rarely abandons its position willingly. Eisenhower had to send freaking paratroopers to enforce desegregation in schools.
- marcellus23 5y agoPeople are not the groups they belong to. Looking at it as "carrot vs. stick" already reveals you're thinking about this the wrong way. You're right, discrimination happens and it's not codified. So the solution is to start codifying discrimination? That kind of thing is either wrong or it isn't. The ends don't justify the means.
- ohCh6zos 5y agoYes, any intervention you can implement will slow down integration.