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Let's be more empathetic to the developers than call them "incompetent". It might be that they are burnt out from years if crunch, investor expectations and har

by moss2 5y ago

Let's be more empathetic to the developers than call them "incompetent". It might be that they are burnt out from years if crunch, investor expectations and harassment from fans.

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emsy 5y ago
Incompetent is defined by Merriam-Webster as „lacking the qualities needed for effective action“ and „unable to function properly“. Incompetent is the correct word, all things considered. Protecting the feelings of the people involved by mincing words is not going to help them very much in the end.
- lucideer 5y ago
  Citing technical definitions of a term used to critique individual humans is unhelpful and splitting hairs. Even if I entertain your nitpicking, the former definition (lacking qualities) is still unfair.
- mort96 5y ago
  But we don't know that the developers are lacking those qualities? It's certainly possible that the only problem at CDPR and the only problem with the development of Cyberpunk 2077 is that the programmers and artists are bad (or "lacking the qualities needed for effective action"). But it's certainly also possible that the artists, developers and maybe even low-level managers are perfectly capable workers but placed in circumstances where even the most competent workers would produce a sub-par product, no? This isn't about mincing word, this is about correctly attributing blame.
  - LeoNatan25 5y ago
    Notice I didn't only blame the developers. I said "team". Management is part of that team. But where there is smoke, there usually is fire, and probably some of the blame of this technical failure of a game lies with developers also.
- sirwhinesalot 5y ago
  9 women can't make a baby in 1 month. If anything there was severely incompetent management.
- rambojohnson 5y ago
  nobody needs your merriam webster definition. you never even spent a day as a developer in this company and somehow you think you have the credibility to back a comment on their competence?
  - emsy 5y ago
    Your emotional comment is inappropriate. You seem to think that calling a team incompetent is the same as calling individuals incompetent, which it isn't.

by moss2 5y ago

Let's be more empathetic to the developers than call them "incompetent". It might be that they are burnt out from years if crunch, investor expectations and harassment from fans.

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emsy 5y ago

Incompetent is defined by Merriam-Webster as „lacking the qualities needed for effective action“ and „unable to function properly“. Incompetent is the correct word, all things considered. Protecting the feelings of the people involved by mincing words is not going to help them very much in the end.

lucideer 5y ago
Citing technical definitions of a term used to critique individual humans is unhelpful and splitting hairs. Even if I entertain your nitpicking, the former definition (lacking qualities) is still unfair.
mort96 5y ago
But we don't know that the developers are lacking those qualities? It's certainly possible that the only problem at CDPR and the only problem with the development of Cyberpunk 2077 is that the programmers and artists are bad (or "lacking the qualities needed for effective action"). But it's certainly also possible that the artists, developers and maybe even low-level managers are perfectly capable workers but placed in circumstances where even the most competent workers would produce a sub-par product, no? This isn't about mincing word, this is about correctly attributing blame.
- LeoNatan25 5y ago
  Notice I didn't only blame the developers. I said "team". Management is part of that team. But where there is smoke, there usually is fire, and probably some of the blame of this technical failure of a game lies with developers also.
sirwhinesalot 5y ago
9 women can't make a baby in 1 month. If anything there was severely incompetent management.
rambojohnson 5y ago
nobody needs your merriam webster definition. you never even spent a day as a developer in this company and somehow you think you have the credibility to back a comment on their competence?
- emsy 5y ago
  Your emotional comment is inappropriate. You seem to think that calling a team incompetent is the same as calling individuals incompetent, which it isn't.