It would make more sense, but there are clear examples of socialism working in various forms, throughout Europe, China, Australia. So when reality counters a f

It would make more sense, but there are clear examples of socialism working in various forms, throughout Europe, China, Australia. So when reality counters a fairly weak and stretched analogy. I am skeptical (to say the least). Socialism doesn't have to be the huge stifling of wealth. China is generating wealth with Socialism with Chinese Characteristic™ Australia has highly socialist policies (free health care, study allowance, subsidised education, pensions, unemployment benefits), yet still boasts a robust capital-generating society, that has avoided recession (so-far) post GFC. There are no "true capitalist" (true being 'everyone is a capitalist') countries either, because it simply doesn't work. One needs to exploit something (usually someone) in order to generate capital, and if everyone were looking to do this, there would be no one to exploit, and thus no surplus value, no profit, thus no motive for business.