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Pretty much. The only difference between Jobs and the others is that Jobs made more stuff that consumers like, and was more successful. Humanity loves a succe

• Cthulhu_ 5y ago
  That's probably it. Jobs was a prick but not like Trump in many ways. I mean he was actually rich instead of just playing the part for one, lol.
  • nicoburns 5y ago
    I think the closest contemporary equivalent of Steve Jobs is Elon Musk. Clearly egotistically and self-obsessed, but never-the-less a very impressive person who is deeply involved in the details of the everyday running of their company, and is creating things that nobody else could in quite the same way.
    • urthor 5y ago
      Elon is just strange. He... does not seem like he would be as successful as he has been, to hear him talk. I haven't researched him much if at all. But I genuinely wonder how much of his success is simply the fact he had the seed capital and was utterly fearless. What important lesson do you learn about from following Elon Musk, other than "just keep going."
      • nicoburns 5y ago
        I think the seed capital and fearlessness is part of it, but I think he's also a damn smart engineer and by all accounts he gets down into the details of projects his companies are working on at times.
        • Ntrails 5y ago
          (Uninformed view) I feel like a part of it is a refusal to be accept anything other than a very thorough explanation of why something is the way it is. He's not going to accept someone saying "nah, can't do it that way" at face value no matter who tells him. He has challenged a lot of assumptions, to his benefit
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      • mcv 5y ago
        Elon Musk is more than just strange. He's definitely stranger than Steve Jobs, but also has his cult of personality, he picks stupid internet fights, takes on ridiculous challenges, and over-promises on them, but although he under-delivers on those promises, he does deliver. And what he delivers, still has had a massive impact. At the same time, he constantly seems to be teetering on the edge of destroying his whole enterprise. Jobs was more careful, less extreme.
        • lazide 5y ago
          Before or after he got fired from Apple?
          • hef19898 5y ago
            Maybe that experience is the difference between those two?
      • Mezzie 5y ago
        Elon Musk is a performer. He's one of the few people in his generation that is, as you mentioned, fearless and with capital and that understands digital culture. He's like someone from the 50s who sees an Elvis Presley show and immediately starts printing teen heartthrob magazines because he knows those girls will pay ANYTHING for more Elvis. Or maybe a digital politician? He's just talking about electric cars and space to fire up his base instead of abortion and guns. It's also why he seems to 'do' something real just often enough that people can't dismiss his intelligence entirely: His main projects are population management and public relations; the tech is just the 'flavor'.
  • watwut 5y ago
    Both are/were actually rich. The difference is that Trump was loosing money his dad earned while failing upwards again and again.