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I'd argue lazy people don't often change the world and probably not people who are drunk/high all the time. I'd argue self worth and personal happiness doesn't
by adra 5y ago
I'd argue lazy people don't often change the world and probably not people who are drunk/high all the time.
I'd argue self worth and personal happiness doesn't eliminate ones desire to positively change society (same with rich people), though it may be less common.
Lincoln was a rich white guy who still did good things. Tons of CEOs are money obsessed miserable sociopaths whos greatest contributions will be adding some zeros to their net worth.
- ramraj07 5y agoLazy people change the world all the time. Not the universally lazy ones, just the lazy ones that are still responsible.
- droopyEyelids 5y agoThis little debate is a good example of how difficult it can be to communicate meaningfully about huge topics. Everything said in this topic has a certain amount of ‘truth’ to it.
- onion2k 5y agoI'd argue lazy people don't often change the world... There are two sorts of lazy people. One group don't put any effort in, they avoid work, and they leave things as they are. These are the "bad lazy" people. They maintain the status quo. The other sort of lazy people see something that takes effort and think of ways to achieve the same end result with less effort. They're the automates, the refactorers, the long term thinkers. They're the "good lazy" people who create positive change because they enable people to do more. They maintain the status quo where necessary, but also create room for improvement. "good lazy" people don't cause industry changing disruption on a massive scale. "good lazy" doesn't invent Uber or Amazon. But I would argue that they are the cause of a lot of small, incremental changes over time, which actually has a bigger effect on our lives. It just happens too slowly for us to notice.
- jfoutz 5y agoLincoln was born in poverty. The founding fathers were all rich. I get your point, it’s just a bad example.
- mellavora 5y agoBenjamin Franklin was his father's 10th son, and his family only had enough money to send him to school for 2 years. He started working as an apprentice at age 12. At 17, he ran away from home and supported himself doing menial labor in Philadelphia print shops. He ended up very rich, but he didn't start that way.
- lokalfarm 5y agoLincoln is also a famous example of someone who struggled heavily with depression. https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/106591.Lincoln_s_Melancholy https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/106591.Lincoln_s_Melanch... https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=4976127 https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=497612...