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inside its walled garden.

by ayushnix 5y ago

bee_rider 5y ago
Its walled garden is huge.
- f1refly 5y ago
  A prison might be a sizeable piece of land, but it's still a prison. I'd like to go to the lake in the summer, even if it might be more dangerous than a paddling pool.
- vanderZwan 5y ago
  Thanks, that's great for us people outside of the walled garden and completely not missing the point in a thread about having browser choice
  - bee_rider 5y ago
    I don't think it is obvious that this thread is about browser choice. The subject looks to be the absence of competition to Chrome. Lack of personal choice is one reason to be concerned there, but another reason might be handing Google de-facto control over standards.
    - vanderZwan 5y ago
      I fail to see how one could possibly think these things are not fundamentally intertwined arguments, so I really don't understand what you are trying to prove here. My previous point was that a walled garden being "huge" offers no benefit for the vast majority of people outside of the walled garden. How does this not apply to these arguments according to you? Because if they do, and I claim they do, then that reinforces my other statement that talking about walled gardens being huge is completely missing the point.
      - bee_rider 5y ago
        That's OK, clearly neither of us is gaining anything from this interaction, so I think I'll just drop it.
    - ayushnix 5y ago
      > The subject looks to be the absence of competition to Chrome The presence of a proprietary web browser that only works on a specific platform restricted to a certain class of individuals which can afford to be on that platform doesn't really add much to the competition. > another reason might be handing Google de-facto control over standards I don't see Apple having that control to be any better although from what I've been reading about web browser engines and the underlying technology, I doubt anyone else, besides a few behemoth tech companies, can take any sort of control. The web is too far gone for that.
- Dah00n 5y ago
  So is the Chinese market but that doesn't help someone in England locked out.

inside its walled garden.

bee_rider 5y ago

Its walled garden is huge.

f1refly 5y ago
A prison might be a sizeable piece of land, but it's still a prison. I'd like to go to the lake in the summer, even if it might be more dangerous than a paddling pool.
vanderZwan 5y ago
Thanks, that's great for us people outside of the walled garden and completely not missing the point in a thread about having browser choice
- bee_rider 5y ago
  I don't think it is obvious that this thread is about browser choice. The subject looks to be the absence of competition to Chrome. Lack of personal choice is one reason to be concerned there, but another reason might be handing Google de-facto control over standards.
  - vanderZwan 5y ago
    I fail to see how one could possibly think these things are not fundamentally intertwined arguments, so I really don't understand what you are trying to prove here. My previous point was that a walled garden being "huge" offers no benefit for the vast majority of people outside of the walled garden. How does this not apply to these arguments according to you? Because if they do, and I claim they do, then that reinforces my other statement that talking about walled gardens being huge is completely missing the point.
    - bee_rider 5y ago
      That's OK, clearly neither of us is gaining anything from this interaction, so I think I'll just drop it.
  - ayushnix 5y ago
    > The subject looks to be the absence of competition to Chrome The presence of a proprietary web browser that only works on a specific platform restricted to a certain class of individuals which can afford to be on that platform doesn't really add much to the competition. > another reason might be handing Google de-facto control over standards I don't see Apple having that control to be any better although from what I've been reading about web browser engines and the underlying technology, I doubt anyone else, besides a few behemoth tech companies, can take any sort of control. The web is too far gone for that.
Dah00n 5y ago
So is the Chinese market but that doesn't help someone in England locked out.