So it's still deceitful, just a different kind of deceit that can...I dunno, be cast as more acceptible? I'm not sure what kind of judgement either of those alt

So it's still deceitful, just a different kind of deceit that can...I dunno, be cast as more acceptible? I'm not sure what kind of judgement either of those alternatives shows in an industry that has, I hope we can agree, credibility problems.