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C# will not rest until it has every feature of every language.

by jslaby 5y ago

skohan 5y ago
It's funny because it mirrors MS' approach to product development in general.
dodyg 5y ago
I rather love C# pace of evolution.
throwaway2037 5y ago
Is Java and C++ not the same? I think so. No hate for all three: I use all of them, and there are pluses and minuses about all of them! Wider question: How can a language and its core library stand still? To me, standing still is death for any computer programming language ecosystem. Many languages are just getting started on the idea of "green threads" and "colours" (sync vs async). Some of this can be done purely with a core library using existing language features, but some evolutions are better done with language features.
- nsonha 5y ago
  Java is leaner than C# and C++. > How can a language and its core library stand still I guess by having a more abstract foundation and relying less on adding hacks like colored function? Haskell seems to be like that. Another thing is language extensions that you have to turn on to use. This makes deprecating stuff easier in the future, so languages can trim itself instead of keep growing.
  - pjmlp 5y ago
    Java looks more leaner, except when really wants to master it, also needs to understand JVM APIs for low level coding (invokedynamic and friends), annotation processors, JVM agents, just like C and C++ how the many existing implementations behave, bytecode rewriting libraries,....
    - saagarjha 5y ago
      Sure, but day-to-day Java doesn’t usually require that any more than day-to-day development in Objective-C doesn’t require learning the details of the runtime.
    - nsonha 5y ago
      C# has all of that, and more syntaxes. And I don't think anyone's ever taken the position that Java is as complex as C++
koyote 5y ago
I sort of agree with this sentiment but I must say that the implementation of said features has been pretty sane so far, especially if you compare with C++.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Kind of, string? MyFunc (string really!!) Looking forward to C# 11 code.

C# will not rest until it has every feature of every language.

by jslaby 5y ago

C# will not rest until it has every feature of every language.

skohan 5y ago

It's funny because it mirrors MS' approach to product development in general.

dodyg 5y ago

I rather love C# pace of evolution.

throwaway2037 5y ago

Is Java and C++ not the same? I think so. No hate for all three: I use all of them, and there are pluses and minuses about all of them! Wider question: How can a language and its core library stand still? To me, standing still is death for any computer programming language ecosystem. Many languages are just getting started on the idea of "green threads" and "colours" (sync vs async). Some of this can be done purely with a core library using existing language features, but some evolutions are better done with language features.

nsonha 5y ago
Java is leaner than C# and C++. > How can a language and its core library stand still I guess by having a more abstract foundation and relying less on adding hacks like colored function? Haskell seems to be like that. Another thing is language extensions that you have to turn on to use. This makes deprecating stuff easier in the future, so languages can trim itself instead of keep growing.
- pjmlp 5y ago
  Java looks more leaner, except when really wants to master it, also needs to understand JVM APIs for low level coding (invokedynamic and friends), annotation processors, JVM agents, just like C and C++ how the many existing implementations behave, bytecode rewriting libraries,....
  - saagarjha 5y ago
    Sure, but day-to-day Java doesn’t usually require that any more than day-to-day development in Objective-C doesn’t require learning the details of the runtime.
  - nsonha 5y ago
    C# has all of that, and more syntaxes. And I don't think anyone's ever taken the position that Java is as complex as C++

koyote 5y ago

I sort of agree with this sentiment but I must say that the implementation of said features has been pretty sane so far, especially if you compare with C++.

pjmlp 5y ago
Kind of, string? MyFunc (string really!!) Looking forward to C# 11 code.