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A New Flavor... Still Delicious

181 points by sahillavingia 15y ago

joel_liu 15y ago
What's the difference between delicious and stumpupon now?
armandososa 15y ago
I like the stacks feature. Looks like if they were after tumblr sharing market. I don't see myself using them, though.
lucasjake 15y ago
Seems like a fun revitalization of delicious, and these guys will have plenty of resources to experiment.
franze 15y ago
like the good old times 502 Bad Gateway but with a new twist nginx/1.0.5
- johnx123-up 15y ago
  Looks like back to Perl? or switched to CI/PHP?
  - draegtun 15y ago
    Looking at their jobs page its probably been rewritten in Python: http://www.avos.com/jobs/ http://www.avos.com/jobs/
mikemoka 15y ago
they may have just killed delicious.. why didn't they do a private beta before?...
- johnx123-up 15y ago
  +1 Huge mistake from non-Yahoo!
mcobrien 15y ago
The TextMate of bookmarking apps... I've happily moved to Pinboard thanks.
- brndnhy 15y ago
  Does Pinboard show you how many others bookmarked the same link, including the usernames? It's nice when a bookmarking service can be a discovery tool itself.
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    - brndnhy 15y ago
      I'm asking as a potential user of Pinboard because I don't care much for the new Delicious. How was that confusing?
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  - motdiem 15y ago
    yes it shows you "x others" next to your link, when you click on it you can see the list of other users who bookmarked it
dongsheng 15y ago
They removed plenty inactive users, I got my fav username back :D and Yahoo ID has gone +1, that thing barely worked.
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noelsequeira 15y ago
This new flavor could end up being the sweet spot between the Delicious we've come to know and the interesting but relatively niche TrailMeme (http://trailmeme.com/ http://trailmeme.com/). I can see some interesting hacker focused stacks emerge that aggregate quality links around, say, getting started with a new technology or maybe fund raising. The challenge with "stacks" though, as with any list curation web app, is 1) maintaining the quality of content and 2) surfacing higher quality collections as you scale and become more and more inclusive. And these are hard problems to tackle without having humans sift through thousands of stacks to pick the diamonds in the rough (Visit http://www.imdb.com/lists/ http://www.imdb.com/lists/ to see what I mean).
mikemoka 15y ago
I hope at least that, if this is actually beta as claimed, they monitor how this version fares, and if things go for the worst (ie. less users and content produced in the next month or trimester) they should have the humbleness to switch back to the old design and improve gradually on it..users made an investment in delicious during these years and Avos did the same, I don't think that anyone wants to lose anything, money or knowledge..
mikemoka 15y ago
popular links for tags are broken for the moment : http://delicious.com/popular/test http://delicious.com/popular/test
john2x 15y ago
Dammit. I wanted to save a page. I click my Chrome plugin, it no longer works. I go to Delicious.com, drag the new bookmarklet into my bookmarks bar, and attempt to save again. It has a dropdown to be added into a stack, but no indication that it doesn't need to be in a stack (made me hesitate a bit, why do I need stacks and tags?). The worse part is when typing in tags, it no longer autocompletes for the tags I already use. Now I'm at risk at using different tags for similar content (e.g. tutorial/tutorials, book/books)
- alankelon 15y ago
  Tags are dead by design in the new Delicious.
- glenngillen 15y ago
  and there appears to be no way to submit the form without clicking the button. Part of the joy of the previous flow was I had the bookmarklet bound to a shortcut, when it opened it auto-focussed on the tags box (with URL and title pre-populated), autocompleted my tags, and enter would submit. I could be done and on my way without even thinking in around 1-2 secs. This is about an order of magnitude slower and as you mentioned prone to tagging error.
- johnx123-up 15y ago
  Same here. It cleared auto-login and forgot password doesn't work.
  - seclorum 15y ago
    Ditto. I have come to love my little "TAG" button that comes with the Chrome delicious plugin, but it doesn't work any more .. this is definitely a feature regression. I wouldn't have so much use out of Delicious if it weren't so easy to tag a site - the current multi-click futzing around is very frustrating, and of course it really doesn't help that the image/URL code for the "Save a Link" button is broken, so you can't actually drag the button to your bookmark toolbar, as they suggest. Not cool, new Delicious owners. We dedicated users are getting a bit ticked off here .. I'll give it a week before I switch to Pinboard or some other local, smart, solution for managing my bookmark collections.
wongsifu 15y ago
I can't have a tag of two letters. I have a lot 500 errors when I browse my links. Ouch !
kapilkaisare 15y ago
I'm not sure I follow. You buy delicious and then rebuild it from scratch? Why buy it then in the first place? What am I missing?
- madiator 15y ago
  The brand.
- dongsheng 15y ago
  Plus the massive user base.
  - adambyrtek 15y ago
    Kind of, because users had to explicitly opt-in in order to be migrated. I didn't, and I'm curious how many others followed the same path, either because they'd already migrated or just didn't care anymore.
- Jem 15y ago
  Users, links, the brand, the history, domain strength etc.
britta 15y ago
My old Delicious "network" aggregated bookmarks from 100 people I was following; it looks like only 20 of them transferred their bookmarks to new Delicious. (By comparison, 40 of them are in my Pinboard network.) I probably learned more from reading my Delicious network over the past eight years than I learned in college (and I liked college); my network was a wonderful little personal community of people trading interesting, thoughtful, timely, links from around the web over many years. (Twitter now serves this purpose for a ton of people, which is lovely, but a carefully-chosen Delicious network had a signal-to-noise ratio that was pretty unbeatable.) So I'm sad that I seem to no longer be able to follow my network's links in aggregate to see what they've saved recently. But Delicious has been breaking the hearts of former employees for years, and eventually you stop caring so much. Yay for Pinboard!
- wyclif 15y ago
  I feel the same way. User since 2003, migrated to Pinboard. This misses the curation from back in the day. I probably share some of those users in my old network. In any case, Pinboard is the true heir to del.icio.us.
  - initself 15y ago
    It costs money.
    - britta 15y ago
      Yes, it does. If you're interested in long-term web-based storage of personal bookmarks, Pinboard's fee is a type of improvement over Delicious, since it helps the service stay calmly stable over time.
    - Sukotto 15y ago
      Things worth having often do.
- antrix 15y ago
  > Twitter now serves this purpose for a ton of people, which is lovely, but a carefully-chosen Delicious network had a signal-to-noise ratio that was pretty unbeatable. Moreover, searching for anything old on Twitter is pretty much impossible. Delicious was much better in that you could always search & recall that one bookmark.
jasonkester 15y ago
Hmm... So I log in and the first obvious difference is that I can see exactly four bookmarks on the screen at once. And if I scroll I see that there are only 10 per page. Don't you think that's a bit sparse? I'm not sure what use case the new owners think most people are on the site for, but for me it's to save bookmarks and quickly find them again. I used to have a nice tall list that I could scan down quickly. So I click a tag off the sidebar to narrow things down a bit. Nine Mississippi. Ten Mississippi, and I came back here to update my comment. I can see the other tab still spinning. Searching came back fast enough, but really, I don't want to have to type keywords in to find links that a few days ago were in a nice tight list on a single screen. In all, this seems like a huge step backward. Beyond that, the homepage seems to have changed. I've never used the homepage, so I can't comment on whether that's an improvement or not. Anybody know what the homepage is supposed to be for? Looking at other people's bookmarks?
- joelanman 15y ago
  Looking at other people's bookmarks is one of the main ways I use Delicious: either by searching (I find it much better than google for certain things, eg. finding popular software) or using the Popular page to see what's new (normally pretty weighted towards web-dev on Delicious, but you can browse tags for other topics).
- dongsheng 15y ago
  It was the popular links, now, the first tab became popular stacks... It looks like a simplified delicious.com, a lot of features haven't been implemented. We probably should give them a bit more time. One thing I hated most is the spaces between entries and spaces between blocks, it makes the page really fat.
- alexdong 15y ago
  As the cofounder of trunk.ly and a direct competitor to delicious, I think this new version is one step forward, two steps back. Social bookmarking is one of the few much under-appreciated services. It offers much longer life-time-value to its users. There are lots of data one can mine. Many needs to satisfy. Chad and Chen's entry definitely revitalize this market. Their "bringing social bookmarking to consumers" is spot on. This is a huge step forward. Over time, I'm sure the service will become better as long as they keep improving it. Two steps back: 1) The main way to get links into delicious is still via bookmarklet. Given the high ratio of people using facebook, twitter, why should I manually bookmark a link if I have already retweeted it? Or liked it in my little walled garden? Trunk.ly provides 10+ connectors into popular social networks. Setup once. Links will start coming in automatically. 2) Lack of a solid social search. Playlist for the web is a great concept but will your interior "design" tag means the same to my software "design" tag? Tagging as a device to build taxonomy starts to collapse when people uses same tag for difference things. Quora solves this problem quite well by labouring out a taxonomy of its own. Trunk.ly provides a search interface so essentially you have your own google for your links as well as your friends. For example, want to search for stunning infrared photography images? This is what you get from trunk.ly: http://trunk.ly/?q=infrared+photography http://trunk.ly/?q=infrared+photography This is from delicious: http://delicious.com/search?p=infrared+photography http://delicious.com/search?p=infrared+photography
lbolla 15y ago
Is it just me or delicious.com is now terribly slow? Overall, I'm not impressed. * the "Hi, <my-name>" dropdown menu must be the most horrible I've ever seen; * why do I need to have a picture?! I just want to save/share bookmarks! * all this "stack feature": I barely see the point. grouping can be done with tags (well done with allowing tags with spaces!).
aymeric 15y ago
Do I need to create a new account or can I use my old account? It doesn't seem to remember my old username.
- gizzlon 15y ago
  Maybe their not lost after all, spotted an update on their new blog: http://deliciousengineering.blogspot.com/2011/09/firefox-extension-fixed-after-long.html http://deliciousengineering.blogspot.com/2011/09/firefox-ext... (at the end..)
- gizzlon 15y ago
  If you didn't pay attention and authorize them to move your data, I guess it's lost? :( But seriously, I got like 5 of those.. how did you miss it?
  - jasonkester 15y ago
    In that same span of time, how many thousands of emails from other services you signed up for but don't particularly care about at the moment did you receive? That's how you can miss something like that. For some reason, every business in the world thinks it's important enough that I am going to be constantly monitoring it to make sure I'm still signed up, active, don't want all my stuff deleted, etc. But for the most part real people can go years at a time not caring about services like this, yet still have a reasonable expectation that their stuff will still be there when they go back. As luck may have it, this interaction spurred me to check my Hotmail account again, because I used it as my backup email address for a few services several years ago and they have a nasty habit of deleting accounts for inactivity. Sure enough, all my email is gone. Evidently because it's been a few months since I logged in. Completely inexcusable, but at least I caught it before they deleted the account entirely. Amazing that companies think this is acceptable behavior.
    - gizzlon 15y ago
      yeah, I see your point.. I usually quit services that send too many emails. Maybe I noticed the delicious email because they don't normally spam me.
metabrew 15y ago
No pagination (yet, i hope), means i can't browse more than one page of links for any tag, which is rather useless for now. I want to try the stacks feature. I'm not sure if I care about it or not, but until i can browse all my old links, I have nothing to make stacks with. Hope they bring back the tag cloud page. Clicking my tags in the list to the right adds them to the current selection, /tag1+tag2+tag3, with no indication apart from the URL of what's selected and now to deselect. That mechanic is broken horribly right now, but exposing tag intersections is a good idea in general. The best thing about delicious was the network feed.. that's why I went to the site most days. I hope that is coming back ASAP. Based on the design and avatar placement, I'm assuming the ability to comment on links others have saved is coming soon: good. Chrome extension no longer works (why?! it just tagged stuff...) I don't have a bookmark bar visible, so bookmarklets make me sad. Bit of a rough relaunch, but I guess they always are..
logic 15y ago
Am I blind, or has the API documentation completely disappeared? I've also noticed that some of the RSS feeds I had previously subscribed to are starting to 404. I haven't had the patience to track down what the new URLs are, but no redirects? Really? Email addresses with plus signs in the left-hand side now appear to be a new pain point. :P (My existing plussed-address is still in place, but any changes I make to my settings cause a server-side insistance that the email I've entered is invalid.) So far, not impressed with the first steps Avos have taken, and I say this as a long-time fan of Delicious.
- zakj 15y ago
  Yep, the API documentation is gone; http://delicious.com/help/tools http://delicious.com/help/tools claims that developer documentation is coming soon. In the meantime, Pinboard's API almost exactly matches Delicious's, and its documentation is still up: http://pinboard.in/api http://pinboard.in/api. Incidentally, the Delicious API is still working correctly (albeit slowly) for me.
pushingbits 15y ago
I switched to delicious from Google Bookmarks some time ago because I liked to keep things tidy with tag bundles, though I missed the full text search and delicious is sooo slow. After the relaunch it looks like they are trying to position themselves to compete with pinterest et al, but they still have a lot of catching up to do in terms of UI and they are still soooo slow. Anyway, using delicious as a private bookmark manager (which is what I was doing) doesn't seem to be a use case they have in mind for the future. Time to give pinboard a try, I guess. Maybe I'll learn to live with the tag cloud.
pkamb 15y ago
They should (re-)re-brand it back to http://del.icio.us/ http://del.icio.us/
- johnx123-up 15y ago
  .us domains are reportedly blocked in some countries. At least they should trim off "www." like before.
- mario64 15y ago
  That won't help things. I'm not surprised with the way things have turned out. Chad hurley admitted in a nytimes interview that he hardly used the site. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/technology/youtube-founders-aim-to-revamp-delicious.html?_r=1 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/technology/youtube-founder...
mixman 15y ago
What happened to the network view of those you follow? It was one of my main means of finding interesting content.
andrethegiant 15y ago
If you use Safari and Delicious you should know about http://delicioussafari.com/ http://delicioussafari.com/, it puts all your links organized by tags in the menubar. You can also add links very easily with ⌘Y.
CrLf 15y ago
Whenever there's change, there's always some degree of resistance. That being said... Why the obsession with sparse layouts? Too much information can be negative, yes, but the old layout was compact yet not overwhelming. Where's the tag cloud? This may be the single most annoying thing with the new layout... Not only the tag cloud was a more compact way to display all the tags, but it also emphasized the more frequently used ones. Where's the tag filtering? Previously I could click on a tag, and then add other tags to display only the bookmarks that matched all of them. What's up with the picture on links whenever they have a comment? And finally... When you have something that works, why in $DEITY's name will you go out on a rampage and rewrite it from scratch? You know, if people used the site, maybe it had something going for it... I never considered switching away from delicious before. But now that it is a different beast altogether, with most of what made it useful for me before (I couldn't care less about "social" features), I just might.
- apgwoz 15y ago
  You still can filter by multiple tags. Just keep clicking on tags in the sidebar. I rather like the promise. Since this is basically a complete rewrite, I'm sure they'll take into consideration the feedback from their users. And I'm sure there will be a lot of it.
  - CrLf 15y ago
    Frankly, I dislike "promise". You do not remove features from users without a significant reason, you work within the constrains of what you have and build upon that. The tag list isn't even ordered alphabetically anymore, for $DEITY's sake... How would users react in they opened Word one day and found out it was actually Notepad, just because Microsoft wanted to create a "beautiful thing" and rewrite Word from scratch...?
    - deleted 15y ago
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    - murki 15y ago
      Well isn't that what's probably happening with Win8?
diamondhead 15y ago
It's very good to see that delicious is getting improved again. I think that it'll will be the replacement of search engines in couple of years. It's chaotic enough to collect information from the web and strong enough to provide better ways of accessing information.
utunga 15y ago
I was really open to this - to new things and new features.. but then i started using it for the real day to day things that i already love delicious for. Arghh! They seriously broke many key parts of the old functionality - things I really use and need. Just praying this is just a launch-now-fix-later type deal.
RexRollman 15y ago
Sorry Delicious but Pinboard has my heart now.
SandB0x 15y ago
* Browser plugins broken * Can't click on a tag and see other users who've saved the URL (which was a very useful feature) * Amateurish layout
mhd 15y ago
Like many others here, I switched to pinboard a while ago. And strangely enough, even though that is run by a single person, I trust it more to respond to users wishes and generally be updated. Don't care about the social aspects, so the user base really doesn't matter to me. I want my bookmarks managed, if somebody else has to share something, blogs and twitter are sufficient, I don't need to bookmark-stalk someone… And is it just me or did their default bookmarklet add those silly stacks, but drop tag autocompletion?
- apricot13 15y ago
  >And is it just me or did their default bookmarklet add those silly stacks, but drop tag autocompletion? no, its not just you! its done it for me too! its so frustrating! My browser crashed when I tried to create a stack!
- johnx123-up 15y ago
  If you don't care about social aspects, why can you just live with browser sync? (really asking)
  - mhd 15y ago
    I do use browser sync, but to be honest, most of what I have there is just some work-related, frequently used items and bookmarlets, i.e. mostly stuff in the bookmark bar. Pinboard/delicious has some vital advantages for me – first, it works across browsers, so whether I'm using Chrome or Firefox, I can still access them. Never mind bookmarking something from an iOS or Android device… Also, the UI for doing that is a lot better, tagging, search etc. Some stuff you bookmark is a simple "read later" or "read on another device" list, but I do it for lot of articles and sites that might come in convenient some vague time in the future.
  - zbuc 15y ago
    The tagging is really nice for organizing things, and having the date you bookmarked it associated is nice as well. I know I'll sometimes think, "What was that site I looked at last year that had that cool ____?" and it's pretty easy to find if you can just scroll through by date bookmarked.
mercury888 15y ago
I just did a search for Kevin rose. Wtf? Where are all the old bookmarks??? They ruined it! There's only 3 results!
AndrewDucker 15y ago
So, I can't post from my client any more, ifttt's connection to it also seems to be broken, the posting bookmarklet isn't doing autocomplete, and the forums have been washed away. This isn't a great start, really.
spdegabrielle 15y ago
Mobile safari login fails silently. Arggh. Must look for alternatives.
SonicSoul 15y ago
let's see.. my "tag" chrome extension stopped working.. so i installed whatever extensions was most popular (same one delicious uses in their demo video). that one overrode alt+d (which normally selects address bar text), and it just saves before giving me a chance to enter any tags. so now anytime i press alt+d to select text, it just saves that site to delicious w/out any tags. i really didn't need this. it was working great the way it was.
johnx123-up 15y ago
http://www.delicious.com/ http://www.delicious.com/ and http://delicious.com/ http://delicious.com/ are alive:( Not sure, why these guys are missing basic thing....
- polynomial 15y ago
  While I understand the usual practice is to redirect one to the other, what is the reason they both can't be a valid address?
  - johnx123-up 15y ago
    Having both schemes will lead to duplicate copies on search engines.
    - mikemoka 15y ago
      This is like the ABC of SEO, BUT there is a robots.txt that may keep those crawlers away..
      - johnx123-up 15y ago
        http://www.delicious.com/robots.txt http://www.delicious.com/robots.txt and http://delicious.com/robots.txt http://delicious.com/robots.txt - same copy Apart from SEO, it is also a bad practice. Think of multiple copies spread across many subdomains without any purpose
rb2k_ 15y ago
> We’re still supporting all Delicious APIs and feeds I would beg to differ: $ curl http://feeds.delicious.com/v2/json/recent?count=20 http://feeds.delicious.com/v2/json/recent?count=20 curl: (6) Could not resolve host: feeds.delicious.com; nodename nor servname provided, or not known
Skillset 15y ago
Like many of the commenters, I'm not crazy about the changes. But I do notice one marked improvement, though I'm not sure how many others will share my experience. I've been using this Delicious bookmarklet for Chrome (http://www.techlifeweb.com/2008/09/11/delicious-bookmarklet-for-google-chrome http://www.techlifeweb.com/2008/09/11/delicious-bookmarklet-...) and noticed that about a year ago, it was displaying only the five suggested tags, instead of all the recommended tags for that site. To make things worse, they didn't even seem to be the most relevant five — nearly every site was tagged "inspiration" or "design," undoubtedly by web designers looking for ideas. Now that it's relaunched, the suggested tags are back to normal! I know I should just enter my own tags, but it kind of defeats the purpose of tapping the wisdom of crowds. Now it's time to go back and re-tag a year's worth of bookmarks...er, links. A delicious prospect indeed.
figital 15y ago
initially psyched when i heard this news but hard to see where this is going so far with most of the previous greatness stripped out. even a url like http://delicious.com/stacks/figital http://delicious.com/stacks/figital would have previously been http://delicious.com/figital/stacks http://delicious.com/figital/stacks. maybe they've set this up for rapid/iterative development but my excitement will last for about another week.
- jamesgeck0 15y ago
  http://delicious.com/figital/stacks http://delicious.com/figital/stacks would take you to everything you'd tagged as "stacks." I'm not sure there's a way around that without changing the tag urls to something like http://delicious.com/figital/tags/tagname http://delicious.com/figital/tags/tagname
initself 15y ago
They appear to have broken Delicious Bookmarks for Firefox.
- tdurden 15y ago
  Syncing issue? I found you can workaround this by logging in to https://api.del.icio.us https://api.del.icio.us
damncabbage 15y ago
I'm sorry to say this, but this may provoke another massive boost for http://pinboard.in http://pinboard.in
- johnx123-up 15y ago
  No. These guys locked me by borking forgot password:-D I can't export now
ZTech 15y ago
Delicious is limited only to storing bookmarks and it would be better if it were made more comprehensive to cover the various sources of content that we access on a daily basis. Anybody here tried Zukmo as an alternative ? its a free cloud based tool to build your Personal Digital Library with bookmarks, documents, google docs, tweets, rss feeds, notes etc.
jamesgeck0 15y ago
It's a complete rewrite, but I'm still surprised they missed so many basic features. It's rather frustrating to use. * No iPhone version of the site anymore. * Links are bookmarked as soon as you click the bookmarklet, not when you click save on in the popup window. * No suggest-as-you-type tags when using the bookmarket. * Both http://delicious.com http://delicious.com and http://www.delicious.com http://www.delicious.com exist, and you can be signed in on one but not the other. There are also links on one that redirect to the other. * If you are logged out, clicking on the bookmarklet pulls up the site's registration screen in a new window. This window does not have horizontal scrollbars and is not wide enough to see the login link. * For some reason there's no hand cursor on mouse-over of links.
- dongsheng 15y ago
  http://del.icio.us http://del.icio.us still exists too, it's my preferred one.
- getsat 15y ago
  > * Both http://delicious.com http://delicious.com and http://www.delicious.com http://www.delicious.com exist, and you can be signed in on one but not the other. There are also links on one that redirect to the other. In addition to being dumb in general, this is also a huge SEO faux pas... though, it would appear they couldn't care less: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:delicious.com http://www.google.com/search?q=site:delicious.com http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.delicious.com http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.delicious.com http://www.google.com/search?q=site:del.icio.us http://www.google.com/search?q=site:del.icio.us That's a lot of organic search traffic left on the table.
Thrymr 15y ago
And my profile pic seems to have defaulted to a drawing of a badger? How is that a useful default?
- jeffgreco 15y ago
  Seems like a decent motivation to make you upload a real one.
fleaflicker 15y ago
Does anybody have any technical details on what backend changes were made? Seems like a huge effort to migrate all that data. Really curious what changed and how it changed on the backend side.
alaithea 15y ago
The new front page design smacks of those spammy "10 AMAZING Photos of [fill in the blank]" sites which steal other people's content and don't properly attribute it. I can't bring myself to click on any of the stacks; I just want to avert my eyes.
tbrooks 15y ago
The new Delicious is case in point why you should never write a codebase from the ground up. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html
- britta 15y ago
  It's unlikely that AVOS had a choice. Several months ago, the former product manager of Delicious wrote about a few options for its future (http://uniquehazards.tumblr.com/post/2377362882/we-can-save-delicious-but-probably-not-in-the-way-you http://uniquehazards.tumblr.com/post/2377362882/we-can-save-...), and he included: > But ultimately the real challenge here will be the technology. During my time at Delicious we rebuilt the entire infrastructure to deeply leverage a number of internal Yahoo technologies. It’s all great stuff but not exactly easy to remove or replace.
  - tbrooks 15y ago
    That's fair. I guess my larger concern rewriting the codebase, is they lose a lot of learned assumptions from users. For example, under the new delicious, if I click a tag in my tag cloud. And say it takes me to '/photos' and then I click another tag, 'house'. It doesn't take me to '/house', but '/photos/house' and the page isn't found. I've probably done this 20x today and the behavior is so ingrained in me that I can't function with their new UX. There are other nuances like this that make the new delicious extremely frustrating.
handelaar 15y ago
I'm especially loving the way they deleted my entire account and everything I ever saved in it.
- xnxn 15y ago
  Sorry, but that's entirely your fault. Even if you missed the "please allow AVOS to migrate your stuff" e-mail Yahoo! sent when Delicious was acquired, you could have easily grabbed a JSON dump of your bookmarks at any time in the past eight years.
  - doitninetimes 15y ago
    not necessarily. i have multiple friends who authorized migration whose accounts disappeared. not just locked out, the delicious.com/USERNAME goes to an error page.
  - handelaar 15y ago
    Yeah, cos it can't possibly be that I replied to that in the affirmative and then I joined the mass ranks of users who just got dropped when this migration lost a huge pile of data en route.
joshu 15y ago
Feels like this needs more work before we can see where they really wanted to go.
grantjgordon 15y ago
What a vast improvement! I've been using delicious for years, and as the UI has stagnated, the things that bugged me about it have stacked up. Everything I thought should be fixed, from where padding should be added to how tags should be delimited, and much, much more has made it into this redesign. Bravo, guys. Bravo.
naner 15y ago
Redesign aside, I've had nothing but trouble trying to use the website and their browser plugins since they relaunched. I am not a happy camper.
adulau 15y ago
http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html "Cool URIs don't change" and this should be applicable to del.icio.us too. The URI http://www.delicious.com/network/<username&#62 http://www.delicious.com/network/<username> is now broken... not really a good start if you want to sell del.icio.us as a social platform for bookmarking.
cakeface 15y ago
Its so funny. Through all of the stuff that has happened with delicious over the past year I've stuck there and been reasonably happy. Today though none of my plugins work. When I try to go to the ff plugin download page I get a 404, and I am just not liking the new site. It seems like to me that the best thing they could have done is show some stability to people by being reliable and fixing some of the things that were already broken on the last site before they asked their userbase to take a leap like this.

181 points by sahillavingia 15y ago

joel_liu 15y ago

What's the difference between delicious and stumpupon now?

armandososa 15y ago

I like the stacks feature. Looks like if they were after tumblr sharing market. I don't see myself using them, though.

lucasjake 15y ago

Seems like a fun revitalization of delicious, and these guys will have plenty of resources to experiment.

franze 15y ago

like the good old times 502 Bad Gateway but with a new twist nginx/1.0.5

johnx123-up 15y ago
Looks like back to Perl? or switched to CI/PHP?
- draegtun 15y ago
  Looking at their jobs page its probably been rewritten in Python: http://www.avos.com/jobs/ http://www.avos.com/jobs/

mikemoka 15y ago

they may have just killed delicious.. why didn't they do a private beta before?...

johnx123-up 15y ago
+1 Huge mistake from non-Yahoo!

mcobrien 15y ago

The TextMate of bookmarking apps... I've happily moved to Pinboard thanks.

brndnhy 15y ago
Does Pinboard show you how many others bookmarked the same link, including the usernames? It's nice when a bookmarking service can be a discovery tool itself.
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  - brndnhy 15y ago
    I'm asking as a potential user of Pinboard because I don't care much for the new Delicious. How was that confusing?
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- motdiem 15y ago
  yes it shows you "x others" next to your link, when you click on it you can see the list of other users who bookmarked it

dongsheng 15y ago

They removed plenty inactive users, I got my fav username back :D and Yahoo ID has gone +1, that thing barely worked.

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noelsequeira 15y ago

This new flavor could end up being the sweet spot between the Delicious we've come to know and the interesting but relatively niche TrailMeme (http://trailmeme.com/ http://trailmeme.com/). I can see some interesting hacker focused stacks emerge that aggregate quality links around, say, getting started with a new technology or maybe fund raising. The challenge with "stacks" though, as with any list curation web app, is 1) maintaining the quality of content and 2) surfacing higher quality collections as you scale and become more and more inclusive. And these are hard problems to tackle without having humans sift through thousands of stacks to pick the diamonds in the rough (Visit http://www.imdb.com/lists/ http://www.imdb.com/lists/ to see what I mean).

mikemoka 15y ago

I hope at least that, if this is actually beta as claimed, they monitor how this version fares, and if things go for the worst (ie. less users and content produced in the next month or trimester) they should have the humbleness to switch back to the old design and improve gradually on it..users made an investment in delicious during these years and Avos did the same, I don't think that anyone wants to lose anything, money or knowledge..

mikemoka 15y ago

popular links for tags are broken for the moment : http://delicious.com/popular/test http://delicious.com/popular/test

john2x 15y ago

Dammit. I wanted to save a page. I click my Chrome plugin, it no longer works. I go to Delicious.com, drag the new bookmarklet into my bookmarks bar, and attempt to save again. It has a dropdown to be added into a stack, but no indication that it doesn't need to be in a stack (made me hesitate a bit, why do I need stacks and tags?). The worse part is when typing in tags, it no longer autocompletes for the tags I already use. Now I'm at risk at using different tags for similar content (e.g. tutorial/tutorials, book/books)

alankelon 15y ago
Tags are dead by design in the new Delicious.
glenngillen 15y ago
and there appears to be no way to submit the form without clicking the button. Part of the joy of the previous flow was I had the bookmarklet bound to a shortcut, when it opened it auto-focussed on the tags box (with URL and title pre-populated), autocompleted my tags, and enter would submit. I could be done and on my way without even thinking in around 1-2 secs. This is about an order of magnitude slower and as you mentioned prone to tagging error.
johnx123-up 15y ago
Same here. It cleared auto-login and forgot password doesn't work.
- seclorum 15y ago
  Ditto. I have come to love my little "TAG" button that comes with the Chrome delicious plugin, but it doesn't work any more .. this is definitely a feature regression. I wouldn't have so much use out of Delicious if it weren't so easy to tag a site - the current multi-click futzing around is very frustrating, and of course it really doesn't help that the image/URL code for the "Save a Link" button is broken, so you can't actually drag the button to your bookmark toolbar, as they suggest. Not cool, new Delicious owners. We dedicated users are getting a bit ticked off here .. I'll give it a week before I switch to Pinboard or some other local, smart, solution for managing my bookmark collections.

wongsifu 15y ago

I can't have a tag of two letters. I have a lot 500 errors when I browse my links. Ouch !

kapilkaisare 15y ago

I'm not sure I follow. You buy delicious and then rebuild it from scratch? Why buy it then in the first place? What am I missing?

madiator 15y ago
The brand.
dongsheng 15y ago
Plus the massive user base.
- adambyrtek 15y ago
  Kind of, because users had to explicitly opt-in in order to be migrated. I didn't, and I'm curious how many others followed the same path, either because they'd already migrated or just didn't care anymore.
Jem 15y ago
Users, links, the brand, the history, domain strength etc.

britta 15y ago

My old Delicious "network" aggregated bookmarks from 100 people I was following; it looks like only 20 of them transferred their bookmarks to new Delicious. (By comparison, 40 of them are in my Pinboard network.) I probably learned more from reading my Delicious network over the past eight years than I learned in college (and I liked college); my network was a wonderful little personal community of people trading interesting, thoughtful, timely, links from around the web over many years. (Twitter now serves this purpose for a ton of people, which is lovely, but a carefully-chosen Delicious network had a signal-to-noise ratio that was pretty unbeatable.) So I'm sad that I seem to no longer be able to follow my network's links in aggregate to see what they've saved recently. But Delicious has been breaking the hearts of former employees for years, and eventually you stop caring so much. Yay for Pinboard!

wyclif 15y ago
I feel the same way. User since 2003, migrated to Pinboard. This misses the curation from back in the day. I probably share some of those users in my old network. In any case, Pinboard is the true heir to del.icio.us.
- initself 15y ago
  It costs money.
  - britta 15y ago
    Yes, it does. If you're interested in long-term web-based storage of personal bookmarks, Pinboard's fee is a type of improvement over Delicious, since it helps the service stay calmly stable over time.
  - Sukotto 15y ago
    Things worth having often do.
antrix 15y ago
> Twitter now serves this purpose for a ton of people, which is lovely, but a carefully-chosen Delicious network had a signal-to-noise ratio that was pretty unbeatable. Moreover, searching for anything old on Twitter is pretty much impossible. Delicious was much better in that you could always search & recall that one bookmark.

jasonkester 15y ago

Hmm... So I log in and the first obvious difference is that I can see exactly four bookmarks on the screen at once. And if I scroll I see that there are only 10 per page. Don't you think that's a bit sparse? I'm not sure what use case the new owners think most people are on the site for, but for me it's to save bookmarks and quickly find them again. I used to have a nice tall list that I could scan down quickly. So I click a tag off the sidebar to narrow things down a bit. Nine Mississippi. Ten Mississippi, and I came back here to update my comment. I can see the other tab still spinning. Searching came back fast enough, but really, I don't want to have to type keywords in to find links that a few days ago were in a nice tight list on a single screen. In all, this seems like a huge step backward. Beyond that, the homepage seems to have changed. I've never used the homepage, so I can't comment on whether that's an improvement or not. Anybody know what the homepage is supposed to be for? Looking at other people's bookmarks?

joelanman 15y ago
Looking at other people's bookmarks is one of the main ways I use Delicious: either by searching (I find it much better than google for certain things, eg. finding popular software) or using the Popular page to see what's new (normally pretty weighted towards web-dev on Delicious, but you can browse tags for other topics).
dongsheng 15y ago
It was the popular links, now, the first tab became popular stacks... It looks like a simplified delicious.com, a lot of features haven't been implemented. We probably should give them a bit more time. One thing I hated most is the spaces between entries and spaces between blocks, it makes the page really fat.
alexdong 15y ago
As the cofounder of trunk.ly and a direct competitor to delicious, I think this new version is one step forward, two steps back. Social bookmarking is one of the few much under-appreciated services. It offers much longer life-time-value to its users. There are lots of data one can mine. Many needs to satisfy. Chad and Chen's entry definitely revitalize this market. Their "bringing social bookmarking to consumers" is spot on. This is a huge step forward. Over time, I'm sure the service will become better as long as they keep improving it. Two steps back: 1) The main way to get links into delicious is still via bookmarklet. Given the high ratio of people using facebook, twitter, why should I manually bookmark a link if I have already retweeted it? Or liked it in my little walled garden? Trunk.ly provides 10+ connectors into popular social networks. Setup once. Links will start coming in automatically. 2) Lack of a solid social search. Playlist for the web is a great concept but will your interior "design" tag means the same to my software "design" tag? Tagging as a device to build taxonomy starts to collapse when people uses same tag for difference things. Quora solves this problem quite well by labouring out a taxonomy of its own. Trunk.ly provides a search interface so essentially you have your own google for your links as well as your friends. For example, want to search for stunning infrared photography images? This is what you get from trunk.ly: http://trunk.ly/?q=infrared+photography http://trunk.ly/?q=infrared+photography This is from delicious: http://delicious.com/search?p=infrared+photography http://delicious.com/search?p=infrared+photography

lbolla 15y ago

Is it just me or delicious.com is now terribly slow? Overall, I'm not impressed. * the "Hi, <my-name>" dropdown menu must be the most horrible I've ever seen; * why do I need to have a picture?! I just want to save/share bookmarks! * all this "stack feature": I barely see the point. grouping can be done with tags (well done with allowing tags with spaces!).

aymeric 15y ago

Do I need to create a new account or can I use my old account? It doesn't seem to remember my old username.

gizzlon 15y ago
Maybe their not lost after all, spotted an update on their new blog: http://deliciousengineering.blogspot.com/2011/09/firefox-extension-fixed-after-long.html http://deliciousengineering.blogspot.com/2011/09/firefox-ext... (at the end..)
gizzlon 15y ago
If you didn't pay attention and authorize them to move your data, I guess it's lost? :( But seriously, I got like 5 of those.. how did you miss it?
- jasonkester 15y ago
  In that same span of time, how many thousands of emails from other services you signed up for but don't particularly care about at the moment did you receive? That's how you can miss something like that. For some reason, every business in the world thinks it's important enough that I am going to be constantly monitoring it to make sure I'm still signed up, active, don't want all my stuff deleted, etc. But for the most part real people can go years at a time not caring about services like this, yet still have a reasonable expectation that their stuff will still be there when they go back. As luck may have it, this interaction spurred me to check my Hotmail account again, because I used it as my backup email address for a few services several years ago and they have a nasty habit of deleting accounts for inactivity. Sure enough, all my email is gone. Evidently because it's been a few months since I logged in. Completely inexcusable, but at least I caught it before they deleted the account entirely. Amazing that companies think this is acceptable behavior.
  - gizzlon 15y ago
    yeah, I see your point.. I usually quit services that send too many emails. Maybe I noticed the delicious email because they don't normally spam me.

metabrew 15y ago

No pagination (yet, i hope), means i can't browse more than one page of links for any tag, which is rather useless for now. I want to try the stacks feature. I'm not sure if I care about it or not, but until i can browse all my old links, I have nothing to make stacks with. Hope they bring back the tag cloud page. Clicking my tags in the list to the right adds them to the current selection, /tag1+tag2+tag3, with no indication apart from the URL of what's selected and now to deselect. That mechanic is broken horribly right now, but exposing tag intersections is a good idea in general. The best thing about delicious was the network feed.. that's why I went to the site most days. I hope that is coming back ASAP. Based on the design and avatar placement, I'm assuming the ability to comment on links others have saved is coming soon: good. Chrome extension no longer works (why?! it just tagged stuff...) I don't have a bookmark bar visible, so bookmarklets make me sad. Bit of a rough relaunch, but I guess they always are..

logic 15y ago

Am I blind, or has the API documentation completely disappeared? I've also noticed that some of the RSS feeds I had previously subscribed to are starting to 404. I haven't had the patience to track down what the new URLs are, but no redirects? Really? Email addresses with plus signs in the left-hand side now appear to be a new pain point. :P (My existing plussed-address is still in place, but any changes I make to my settings cause a server-side insistance that the email I've entered is invalid.) So far, not impressed with the first steps Avos have taken, and I say this as a long-time fan of Delicious.

zakj 15y ago
Yep, the API documentation is gone; http://delicious.com/help/tools http://delicious.com/help/tools claims that developer documentation is coming soon. In the meantime, Pinboard's API almost exactly matches Delicious's, and its documentation is still up: http://pinboard.in/api http://pinboard.in/api. Incidentally, the Delicious API is still working correctly (albeit slowly) for me.

pushingbits 15y ago

I switched to delicious from Google Bookmarks some time ago because I liked to keep things tidy with tag bundles, though I missed the full text search and delicious is sooo slow. After the relaunch it looks like they are trying to position themselves to compete with pinterest et al, but they still have a lot of catching up to do in terms of UI and they are still soooo slow. Anyway, using delicious as a private bookmark manager (which is what I was doing) doesn't seem to be a use case they have in mind for the future. Time to give pinboard a try, I guess. Maybe I'll learn to live with the tag cloud.

pkamb 15y ago

They should (re-)re-brand it back to http://del.icio.us/ http://del.icio.us/

johnx123-up 15y ago
.us domains are reportedly blocked in some countries. At least they should trim off "www." like before.
mario64 15y ago
That won't help things. I'm not surprised with the way things have turned out. Chad hurley admitted in a nytimes interview that he hardly used the site. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/technology/youtube-founders-aim-to-revamp-delicious.html?_r=1 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/12/technology/youtube-founder...

mixman 15y ago

What happened to the network view of those you follow? It was one of my main means of finding interesting content.

andrethegiant 15y ago

If you use Safari and Delicious you should know about http://delicioussafari.com/ http://delicioussafari.com/, it puts all your links organized by tags in the menubar. You can also add links very easily with ⌘Y.

CrLf 15y ago

Whenever there's change, there's always some degree of resistance. That being said... Why the obsession with sparse layouts? Too much information can be negative, yes, but the old layout was compact yet not overwhelming. Where's the tag cloud? This may be the single most annoying thing with the new layout... Not only the tag cloud was a more compact way to display all the tags, but it also emphasized the more frequently used ones. Where's the tag filtering? Previously I could click on a tag, and then add other tags to display only the bookmarks that matched all of them. What's up with the picture on links whenever they have a comment? And finally... When you have something that works, why in $DEITY's name will you go out on a rampage and rewrite it from scratch? You know, if people used the site, maybe it had something going for it... I never considered switching away from delicious before. But now that it is a different beast altogether, with most of what made it useful for me before (I couldn't care less about "social" features), I just might.

apgwoz 15y ago
You still can filter by multiple tags. Just keep clicking on tags in the sidebar. I rather like the promise. Since this is basically a complete rewrite, I'm sure they'll take into consideration the feedback from their users. And I'm sure there will be a lot of it.
- CrLf 15y ago
  Frankly, I dislike "promise". You do not remove features from users without a significant reason, you work within the constrains of what you have and build upon that. The tag list isn't even ordered alphabetically anymore, for $DEITY's sake... How would users react in they opened Word one day and found out it was actually Notepad, just because Microsoft wanted to create a "beautiful thing" and rewrite Word from scratch...?
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  - murki 15y ago
    Well isn't that what's probably happening with Win8?

diamondhead 15y ago

It's very good to see that delicious is getting improved again. I think that it'll will be the replacement of search engines in couple of years. It's chaotic enough to collect information from the web and strong enough to provide better ways of accessing information.

utunga 15y ago

I was really open to this - to new things and new features.. but then i started using it for the real day to day things that i already love delicious for. Arghh! They seriously broke many key parts of the old functionality - things I really use and need. Just praying this is just a launch-now-fix-later type deal.

RexRollman 15y ago

Sorry Delicious but Pinboard has my heart now.

SandB0x 15y ago

* Browser plugins broken * Can't click on a tag and see other users who've saved the URL (which was a very useful feature) * Amateurish layout

mhd 15y ago

Like many others here, I switched to pinboard a while ago. And strangely enough, even though that is run by a single person, I trust it more to respond to users wishes and generally be updated. Don't care about the social aspects, so the user base really doesn't matter to me. I want my bookmarks managed, if somebody else has to share something, blogs and twitter are sufficient, I don't need to bookmark-stalk someone… And is it just me or did their default bookmarklet add those silly stacks, but drop tag autocompletion?

apricot13 15y ago
>And is it just me or did their default bookmarklet add those silly stacks, but drop tag autocompletion? no, its not just you! its done it for me too! its so frustrating! My browser crashed when I tried to create a stack!
johnx123-up 15y ago
If you don't care about social aspects, why can you just live with browser sync? (really asking)
- mhd 15y ago
  I do use browser sync, but to be honest, most of what I have there is just some work-related, frequently used items and bookmarlets, i.e. mostly stuff in the bookmark bar. Pinboard/delicious has some vital advantages for me – first, it works across browsers, so whether I'm using Chrome or Firefox, I can still access them. Never mind bookmarking something from an iOS or Android device… Also, the UI for doing that is a lot better, tagging, search etc. Some stuff you bookmark is a simple "read later" or "read on another device" list, but I do it for lot of articles and sites that might come in convenient some vague time in the future.
- zbuc 15y ago
  The tagging is really nice for organizing things, and having the date you bookmarked it associated is nice as well. I know I'll sometimes think, "What was that site I looked at last year that had that cool ____?" and it's pretty easy to find if you can just scroll through by date bookmarked.

mercury888 15y ago

I just did a search for Kevin rose. Wtf? Where are all the old bookmarks??? They ruined it! There's only 3 results!

AndrewDucker 15y ago

So, I can't post from my client any more, ifttt's connection to it also seems to be broken, the posting bookmarklet isn't doing autocomplete, and the forums have been washed away. This isn't a great start, really.

spdegabrielle 15y ago

Mobile safari login fails silently. Arggh. Must look for alternatives.

SonicSoul 15y ago

let's see.. my "tag" chrome extension stopped working.. so i installed whatever extensions was most popular (same one delicious uses in their demo video). that one overrode alt+d (which normally selects address bar text), and it just saves before giving me a chance to enter any tags. so now anytime i press alt+d to select text, it just saves that site to delicious w/out any tags. i really didn't need this. it was working great the way it was.

johnx123-up 15y ago

http://www.delicious.com/ http://www.delicious.com/ and http://delicious.com/ http://delicious.com/ are alive:( Not sure, why these guys are missing basic thing....

polynomial 15y ago
While I understand the usual practice is to redirect one to the other, what is the reason they both can't be a valid address?
- johnx123-up 15y ago
  Having both schemes will lead to duplicate copies on search engines.
  - mikemoka 15y ago
    This is like the ABC of SEO, BUT there is a robots.txt that may keep those crawlers away..
    - johnx123-up 15y ago
      http://www.delicious.com/robots.txt http://www.delicious.com/robots.txt and http://delicious.com/robots.txt http://delicious.com/robots.txt - same copy Apart from SEO, it is also a bad practice. Think of multiple copies spread across many subdomains without any purpose

rb2k_ 15y ago

> We’re still supporting all Delicious APIs and feeds I would beg to differ: $ curl http://feeds.delicious.com/v2/json/recent?count=20 http://feeds.delicious.com/v2/json/recent?count=20 curl: (6) Could not resolve host: feeds.delicious.com; nodename nor servname provided, or not known

Skillset 15y ago

Like many of the commenters, I'm not crazy about the changes. But I do notice one marked improvement, though I'm not sure how many others will share my experience. I've been using this Delicious bookmarklet for Chrome (http://www.techlifeweb.com/2008/09/11/delicious-bookmarklet-for-google-chrome http://www.techlifeweb.com/2008/09/11/delicious-bookmarklet-...) and noticed that about a year ago, it was displaying only the five suggested tags, instead of all the recommended tags for that site. To make things worse, they didn't even seem to be the most relevant five — nearly every site was tagged "inspiration" or "design," undoubtedly by web designers looking for ideas. Now that it's relaunched, the suggested tags are back to normal! I know I should just enter my own tags, but it kind of defeats the purpose of tapping the wisdom of crowds. Now it's time to go back and re-tag a year's worth of bookmarks...er, links. A delicious prospect indeed.

figital 15y ago

initially psyched when i heard this news but hard to see where this is going so far with most of the previous greatness stripped out. even a url like http://delicious.com/stacks/figital http://delicious.com/stacks/figital would have previously been http://delicious.com/figital/stacks http://delicious.com/figital/stacks. maybe they've set this up for rapid/iterative development but my excitement will last for about another week.

jamesgeck0 15y ago
http://delicious.com/figital/stacks http://delicious.com/figital/stacks would take you to everything you'd tagged as "stacks." I'm not sure there's a way around that without changing the tag urls to something like http://delicious.com/figital/tags/tagname http://delicious.com/figital/tags/tagname

initself 15y ago

They appear to have broken Delicious Bookmarks for Firefox.

tdurden 15y ago
Syncing issue? I found you can workaround this by logging in to https://api.del.icio.us https://api.del.icio.us

damncabbage 15y ago

I'm sorry to say this, but this may provoke another massive boost for http://pinboard.in http://pinboard.in

johnx123-up 15y ago
No. These guys locked me by borking forgot password:-D I can't export now

ZTech 15y ago

Delicious is limited only to storing bookmarks and it would be better if it were made more comprehensive to cover the various sources of content that we access on a daily basis. Anybody here tried Zukmo as an alternative ? its a free cloud based tool to build your Personal Digital Library with bookmarks, documents, google docs, tweets, rss feeds, notes etc.

jamesgeck0 15y ago

It's a complete rewrite, but I'm still surprised they missed so many basic features. It's rather frustrating to use. * No iPhone version of the site anymore. * Links are bookmarked as soon as you click the bookmarklet, not when you click save on in the popup window. * No suggest-as-you-type tags when using the bookmarket. * Both http://delicious.com http://delicious.com and http://www.delicious.com http://www.delicious.com exist, and you can be signed in on one but not the other. There are also links on one that redirect to the other. * If you are logged out, clicking on the bookmarklet pulls up the site's registration screen in a new window. This window does not have horizontal scrollbars and is not wide enough to see the login link. * For some reason there's no hand cursor on mouse-over of links.

dongsheng 15y ago
http://del.icio.us http://del.icio.us still exists too, it's my preferred one.
getsat 15y ago
> * Both http://delicious.com http://delicious.com and http://www.delicious.com http://www.delicious.com exist, and you can be signed in on one but not the other. There are also links on one that redirect to the other. In addition to being dumb in general, this is also a huge SEO faux pas... though, it would appear they couldn't care less: http://www.google.com/search?q=site:delicious.com http://www.google.com/search?q=site:delicious.com http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.delicious.com http://www.google.com/search?q=site:www.delicious.com http://www.google.com/search?q=site:del.icio.us http://www.google.com/search?q=site:del.icio.us That's a lot of organic search traffic left on the table.

Thrymr 15y ago

And my profile pic seems to have defaulted to a drawing of a badger? How is that a useful default?

jeffgreco 15y ago
Seems like a decent motivation to make you upload a real one.

fleaflicker 15y ago

Does anybody have any technical details on what backend changes were made? Seems like a huge effort to migrate all that data. Really curious what changed and how it changed on the backend side.

alaithea 15y ago

The new front page design smacks of those spammy "10 AMAZING Photos of [fill in the blank]" sites which steal other people's content and don't properly attribute it. I can't bring myself to click on any of the stacks; I just want to avert my eyes.

tbrooks 15y ago

The new Delicious is case in point why you should never write a codebase from the ground up. http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html

britta 15y ago
It's unlikely that AVOS had a choice. Several months ago, the former product manager of Delicious wrote about a few options for its future (http://uniquehazards.tumblr.com/post/2377362882/we-can-save-delicious-but-probably-not-in-the-way-you http://uniquehazards.tumblr.com/post/2377362882/we-can-save-...), and he included: > But ultimately the real challenge here will be the technology. During my time at Delicious we rebuilt the entire infrastructure to deeply leverage a number of internal Yahoo technologies. It’s all great stuff but not exactly easy to remove or replace.
- tbrooks 15y ago
  That's fair. I guess my larger concern rewriting the codebase, is they lose a lot of learned assumptions from users. For example, under the new delicious, if I click a tag in my tag cloud. And say it takes me to '/photos' and then I click another tag, 'house'. It doesn't take me to '/house', but '/photos/house' and the page isn't found. I've probably done this 20x today and the behavior is so ingrained in me that I can't function with their new UX. There are other nuances like this that make the new delicious extremely frustrating.

handelaar 15y ago

I'm especially loving the way they deleted my entire account and everything I ever saved in it.

xnxn 15y ago
Sorry, but that's entirely your fault. Even if you missed the "please allow AVOS to migrate your stuff" e-mail Yahoo! sent when Delicious was acquired, you could have easily grabbed a JSON dump of your bookmarks at any time in the past eight years.
- doitninetimes 15y ago
  not necessarily. i have multiple friends who authorized migration whose accounts disappeared. not just locked out, the delicious.com/USERNAME goes to an error page.
- handelaar 15y ago
  Yeah, cos it can't possibly be that I replied to that in the affirmative and then I joined the mass ranks of users who just got dropped when this migration lost a huge pile of data en route.

joshu 15y ago

Feels like this needs more work before we can see where they really wanted to go.

grantjgordon 15y ago

What a vast improvement! I've been using delicious for years, and as the UI has stagnated, the things that bugged me about it have stacked up. Everything I thought should be fixed, from where padding should be added to how tags should be delimited, and much, much more has made it into this redesign. Bravo, guys. Bravo.

naner 15y ago

Redesign aside, I've had nothing but trouble trying to use the website and their browser plugins since they relaunched. I am not a happy camper.

adulau 15y ago

http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html http://www.w3.org/Provider/Style/URI.html "Cool URIs don't change" and this should be applicable to del.icio.us too. The URI http://www.delicious.com/network/<username&#62 http://www.delicious.com/network/<username> is now broken... not really a good start if you want to sell del.icio.us as a social platform for bookmarking.

cakeface 15y ago

Its so funny. Through all of the stuff that has happened with delicious over the past year I've stuck there and been reasonably happy. Today though none of my plugins work. When I try to go to the ff plugin download page I get a 404, and I am just not liking the new site. It seems like to me that the best thing they could have done is show some stability to people by being reliable and fixing some of the things that were already broken on the last site before they asked their userbase to take a leap like this.