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I know, every time it fails, it's not true communism. There was a running joke in communist countries on this subject too: There was once an important communi
by nec4b 5y ago
I know, every time it fails, it's not true communism.
There was a running joke in communist countries on this subject too:
There was once an important communist dignitary who was treating a sick cow. After the cow died, he said: "What a shame, I had so many more ideas to try!".
- tsimionescu 5y agoPlease reply to my direct question. In which way did the USSR under Stalin allow worker control of the means of production? This isn't a changing of goalposts, it is simply ignoring obvious lies and propaganda from a regime famous for its lack of regard for the truth.
- nec4b 5y agoThrough factory committees.
- tsimionescu 5y agoIf you honestly believe that the workers in a factory under Stalin could decide how much of a good they wanted to produce, or decide if they wanted to increase automation, or even decide if they were allowed to go to the toilet, then you really don't understand how the USSR worked. The Soviets (factory committees) at best held some sway during the early days of the revolution, before Lenin seized power. By the time Stalin replaced Lenin they were long since just a propaganda tool, hollowed out of any democratic control whatsoever and turned to a simple bureaucratic management unit entirely controlled by the party hierarchy.
- nec4b 5y agoIt is still socialism, even if it doesn't work as theoreticized. Flat-earthers are still flat-earthers even though their theory doesn't hold up to reality.