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Why should something like this never happen again? War is war. Japan in current day is an ally, so let's discuss the CCP. Couldn't you say compared to the curr

Why should something like this never happen again? War is war. Japan in current day is an ally, so let's discuss the CCP. Couldn't you say compared to the current modern day Communist Party of China and being as of today 21 Confusion institutes currently located in the United States? Do you think the current Communist Party of China does not have spies and people designed to infiltrate the United States government and the current Republic in various levels? Haven't they even been stealing secrets and intellectual property from governments? Also, alerts last month from British Intelligence (MI5) regarding infiltration in their parliament? And lastly, the CIA finally started a division to investigate China as of late last year. So if you ask me, if there was a large security threat in the United States or Canada for example or any allied nation regarding spies from lets say the CCP, I believe they should absolutely be investigated and potentially put into secure camps regarding national security of a country. It's not pretty(war isn't pretty), but how else would a military secure foreign threats in their country? Sources: https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/how_many_confucius_institutes_are_in_the_united_states https://www.nas.org/blogs/article/how_many_confucius_institu... https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/13/chinese-spy-infiltrated-uk-parliament-mi5-says https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/1/13/chinese-spy-infiltr... https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/06/china-is-stealing-our-technology-and-intellectual-property-congress-must-stop-it/ https://www.nationalreview.com/2021/06/china-is-stealing-our... https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/cia-china-mission-center/2021/10/06/fd477142-26d4-11ec-8d53-67cfb452aa60_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/cia-china-m...

mcphage 5y ago
> So if you ask me, if there was a large security threat in the United States or Canada for example or any allied nation regarding spies from lets say the CCP, I believe they should absolutely be investigated and potentially put into secure camps regarding national security of a country. Were the people imprisoned there actually a security threat? Were they investigated? Was it before or after they were interred?
- fr33d0m_ 5y ago
  I'm no historian expert, but at the time the world was in the middle of World War II and on Sunday, December 7, 1941 there was an event maybe you have heard of called "Pearl Harbor"? Executive Order 9066 (This post and re: the camps) was signed February 19, 1942. Every action has a reaction, especially in times of war, no?
  - olliej 5y ago
    And in this case that action was arresting thousands of Americans with no charge, seizing their assets, and then acting like it was necessary. There was no similar incarceration of German and Italian Americans during WW2. There was no internment of Russian Americans during the Cold War. This obsession that people have in pretending this was not entirely based on race is getting old.
    - fr33d0m_ 5y ago
      Asian would be a race, "Japanese" in that case is a nationality - no? "There was no internment of Russian Americans during the Cold War." -- Last I recall, during the cold war there wasn't thousands of suicide Kamakazee pilots flying planes into a US Navy base and destroying US war ships(Pearl Harbor)?
      - olliej 5y ago
        Their nationality was American. Also "asian" isn't a race
      - mcphage 5y ago
        Japanese didn’t use Kamikaze pilots until much later in the war and were out of resources. They suffered almost no casualties during Pearl Harbor.
  - mcphage 5y ago
    > Every action has a reaction, especially in times of war, no? Yep, but they’re a lot more effective when directed at the enemy, not at your own citizens.
RunawayGalaxy 5y ago
I think you missed the point about Japanese American internment.
- fr33d0m_ 5y ago
  I didn't miss the point, I was replying to the comment above of: "Definitely worth preserving so that people are aware it happened and hopefully prevent it from happening again in the future." I think it should be preserved as a reminder to all, and I am not necessarily against this happening again in the future and clearly gave a modern day example of The Chinese Communist Party as an enemy of nations and how something like this could potentially happen again. Please watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhVOWwppzM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhVOWwppzM "My family is Chinese, they are allowed inside - but I am a foreigner and I must sit outside."
  - beej71 5y ago
    You've posted a video of a Chinese restaurant whose management is at the very least xenophobic, or maybe racist. (Assuming the video is accurate.) And I frown on that, for sure. But that's light-years away from the US government incarcerating all Americans with Chinese heritage simply because of that heritage. You're right that it could happen again. But it would be unConstitutional and racist AF. And that's not the kind of America I want to see. Frankly, it's not the kind of America you should want to see, either. We're supposed to be better than that. We must remain vigilant against this weakness.
sofixa 5y ago
So all American citizens of Chinese descent are CCP spies and should be interned in case of war? What happened to innocent until proven guilty and all the freedom crap in your constitution?

mcphage 5y ago

> So if you ask me, if there was a large security threat in the United States or Canada for example or any allied nation regarding spies from lets say the CCP, I believe they should absolutely be investigated and potentially put into secure camps regarding national security of a country. Were the people imprisoned there actually a security threat? Were they investigated? Was it before or after they were interred?

fr33d0m_ 5y ago
I'm no historian expert, but at the time the world was in the middle of World War II and on Sunday, December 7, 1941 there was an event maybe you have heard of called "Pearl Harbor"? Executive Order 9066 (This post and re: the camps) was signed February 19, 1942. Every action has a reaction, especially in times of war, no?
- olliej 5y ago
  And in this case that action was arresting thousands of Americans with no charge, seizing their assets, and then acting like it was necessary. There was no similar incarceration of German and Italian Americans during WW2. There was no internment of Russian Americans during the Cold War. This obsession that people have in pretending this was not entirely based on race is getting old.
  - fr33d0m_ 5y ago
    Asian would be a race, "Japanese" in that case is a nationality - no? "There was no internment of Russian Americans during the Cold War." -- Last I recall, during the cold war there wasn't thousands of suicide Kamakazee pilots flying planes into a US Navy base and destroying US war ships(Pearl Harbor)?
    - olliej 5y ago
      Their nationality was American. Also "asian" isn't a race
    - mcphage 5y ago
      Japanese didn’t use Kamikaze pilots until much later in the war and were out of resources. They suffered almost no casualties during Pearl Harbor.
- mcphage 5y ago
  > Every action has a reaction, especially in times of war, no? Yep, but they’re a lot more effective when directed at the enemy, not at your own citizens.

RunawayGalaxy 5y ago

I think you missed the point about Japanese American internment.

fr33d0m_ 5y ago
I didn't miss the point, I was replying to the comment above of: "Definitely worth preserving so that people are aware it happened and hopefully prevent it from happening again in the future." I think it should be preserved as a reminder to all, and I am not necessarily against this happening again in the future and clearly gave a modern day example of The Chinese Communist Party as an enemy of nations and how something like this could potentially happen again. Please watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhVOWwppzM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvhVOWwppzM "My family is Chinese, they are allowed inside - but I am a foreigner and I must sit outside."
- beej71 5y ago
  You've posted a video of a Chinese restaurant whose management is at the very least xenophobic, or maybe racist. (Assuming the video is accurate.) And I frown on that, for sure. But that's light-years away from the US government incarcerating all Americans with Chinese heritage simply because of that heritage. You're right that it could happen again. But it would be unConstitutional and racist AF. And that's not the kind of America I want to see. Frankly, it's not the kind of America you should want to see, either. We're supposed to be better than that. We must remain vigilant against this weakness.

sofixa 5y ago

So all American citizens of Chinese descent are CCP spies and should be interned in case of war? What happened to innocent until proven guilty and all the freedom crap in your constitution?