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> Then Russia truly is screwed. Too early to say that so definitively. Russia is banking on a close relationship with China in that time frame. Looking into th

by qqtt 5y ago

> Then Russia truly is screwed. Too early to say that so definitively. Russia is banking on a close relationship with China in that time frame. Looking into the future from here in 2022, that doesn't seem like such a bad bet.

Gwypaas 5y ago
Definitely, the problem is: What does Russia provide for China? For energy, China is also all in on renewables. See this chart for what they are committed to building. https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/average-annual-power-capacity-additions-in-china-in-the-announced-pledges-scenario-aps-2020-2060 https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/average-annua... What is the status of Russian exports outside of energy?
- kleton 5y ago
  China is expanding in every type of energy they can get, including renewables. However, tanks and jets run on naphtha.
- qqtt 5y ago
  China is all in on renewables but they are still building new coal plants today. They need all the energy they can get to power their economy. Russia can build energy pipelines to China at will, and there is plenty of time over the next 10 years to wean themselves off Germany and Europe's dependence and ramp up China exports. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/12/china-coal-fired-plants-uk-cop26-climate-summit-global-phase-out https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/12/china-co... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_of_Siberia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_of_Siberia Timely joint announcement: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-russia-china-agree-30-year-gas-deal-using-new-pipeline-source-2022-02-04/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-russia-...
  - LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
    From your timely joint announcement: "...to settle in euros." Uh Oh!
- thriftwy 5y ago
  Imagine China having an army / contractors which can actually perform operations and isn't scared of losses.
- jansen555 5y ago
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by qqtt 5y ago

Gwypaas 5y ago

Definitely, the problem is: What does Russia provide for China? For energy, China is also all in on renewables. See this chart for what they are committed to building. https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/average-annual-power-capacity-additions-in-china-in-the-announced-pledges-scenario-aps-2020-2060 https://www.iea.org/data-and-statistics/charts/average-annua... What is the status of Russian exports outside of energy?

kleton 5y ago
China is expanding in every type of energy they can get, including renewables. However, tanks and jets run on naphtha.
qqtt 5y ago
China is all in on renewables but they are still building new coal plants today. They need all the energy they can get to power their economy. Russia can build energy pipelines to China at will, and there is plenty of time over the next 10 years to wean themselves off Germany and Europe's dependence and ramp up China exports. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/12/china-coal-fired-plants-uk-cop26-climate-summit-global-phase-out https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/12/china-co... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_of_Siberia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Power_of_Siberia Timely joint announcement: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-russia-china-agree-30-year-gas-deal-using-new-pipeline-source-2022-02-04/ https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/exclusive-russia-...
- LargoLasskhyfv 5y ago
  From your timely joint announcement: "...to settle in euros." Uh Oh!
thriftwy 5y ago
Imagine China having an army / contractors which can actually perform operations and isn't scared of losses.
jansen555 5y ago
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jansen555 5y ago