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That the Russian government is characterizing these personnel as “peacekeepers” would be a fair statement, but to regurgitate that characterization in reporting
by voidsnax 5y ago
That the Russian government is characterizing these personnel as “peacekeepers” would be a fair statement, but to regurgitate that characterization in reporting on the matter seems rather less credible.
- EugeneOZ 5y agoseparatists are “fair” peacekeepers?
- barry-cotter 5y agoParroting obvious government horseshit with a straight face is part of the job of news organizations. They don’t call the US/UN puppet government in Somalia or Libya puppets either. They call them UN approved transitional governments.
- _djo_ 5y agoIf a transitional government is UN-approved, meaning it even survived UNSC rounds without any of the five veto powers objecting, then it’s ridiculous to call it a ‘puppet’ government. The US does not control the UN.
- hackerbeat 5y agoOf course they do. Where was the UN when Iraq was attacked?
- _djo_ 5y agoThe same place it’ll be now: Unable to substantively act because by design the five veto powers effectively neutered the ability of the UN to act against them. The US is just one of the five, the UK, France, Russia, and China are the others. Why do you think no UN action was taken against Russia for annexing Crimea and invading parts of Ukraine in 2014? Or against China for its treatment of the Uyghurs? None of this means the US ‘controls’ the UN though, any more than the other four veto powers do.
- hackerbeat 5y agoIt’s all just show. Forget the rules. America runs the world, does whatever it wants and ignores the UN as it pleases. When other countries do it, they get sanctioned or bombed. And Russia and China are out to change that unipolar world, cause America is out of control. And has been for a long time already. See also: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Council_and_the_Iraq_War https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Security_Coun... On September 16, 2004 Secretary-General of the United Nations Kofi Annan, speaking on the invasion, said, "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN Charter. From our point of view, from the charter point of view, it was illegal."
- nickpp 5y agoAnd still, it's Russia invading its neighbors, not America.
- hackerbeat 5y agoOh really? And how many countries has the US invaded already? Not to mention the ones it subverted to force their worldview on them. Why apply double standards here? There's no good vs. evil. The world is more complex than that.
- nickpp 5y agoBecause it's in the aggressor's interest to point out the failures of others and scream: they did it too. But I lived under both and, while there are no angels, I know which one is evil and which one is (flawed) good. Only one had to keep their people from fleeing their empire of misery with walls and guns.
- hackerbeat 5y agoTrue that!
- Youden 5y agoEdit: Removed everything else because I can't delete. I should know better than to comment on a political thread on HN.
- bruceb 5y agoIt might be less biased than some, but it does have bias.
- akvadrako 5y agoIf only that were true. But if you read Reuters enough you see they have a bent. Journalists always have a choice on at least which quotes and aspects to include Though I admit they are rather good at pretending to be professional, except their ads.
- chakhs 5y agoYeah they should've called them democracy promoters