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This practice is false advertising at a minimum, and possibly fraud. I'm shocked there hasn't been State AG or CFPB investigations and fines yet. Edit: Being m

This practice is false advertising at a minimum, and possibly fraud. I'm shocked there hasn't been State AG or CFPB investigations and fines yet. Edit: Being mad and making mistakes go hand in hand. FTC is the appropriate organization to go after these guys.

R0b0t1 5y ago
It's definitely fraud. The only reason to hide the things they do is to mislead the customer as evidenced by previous cases of this that caused serious harm to consumers.
gruez 5y ago
>or CFPB investigations and fines yet >CFPB "The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) is an agency of the United States government responsible for consumer protection in the financial sector. CFPB's jurisdiction includes banks, credit unions, securities firms, payday lenders, mortgage-servicing operations, foreclosure relief services, debt collectors, and other financial companies operating in the United States. "
- blacksmith_tb 5y ago
  Right, presumably they meant to say the FTC[1]. 1: https://www.usa.gov/stop-scams-frauds https://www.usa.gov/stop-scams-frauds
  - n00bface 5y ago
    Thanks. You got it.
oceanplexian 5y ago
What do you expect? These companies are making toys for retail consumers. If you want devices that guarantee data integrity for life or death, or commercial applications, those exist, come with lengthy contracts, and cost 100-1000x more than the consumer grade stuff. Like I seriously have a hard time empathizing with someone who thinks they are entitled to anything other than a basic RMA if their $60 SSD loses data
- namibj 5y ago
  There's a big difference in this depending on why the SSD lost the data. If it was fraudulently declaring a lack of write-back cache despite a lack of observed crash-consistency, due to not just innocent negligience in firmware development, that's far different from some genuine bug in the FTL messing up the data mapping.
- MageSlayer 5y ago
  Personally, I expect implementing specifications properly. That's it. About "commercial applications", let's face it. Those "enterprise solutions" cost way higher not because they are 10-1000x times "better", but because they contain generous "bonuses" for senior stuff.

R0b0t1 5y ago

It's definitely fraud. The only reason to hide the things they do is to mislead the customer as evidenced by previous cases of this that caused serious harm to consumers.

gruez 5y ago

>or CFPB investigations and fines yet >CFPB "The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB) is an agency of the United States government responsible for consumer protection in the financial sector. CFPB's jurisdiction includes banks, credit unions, securities firms, payday lenders, mortgage-servicing operations, foreclosure relief services, debt collectors, and other financial companies operating in the United States. "

blacksmith_tb 5y ago
Right, presumably they meant to say the FTC[1]. 1: https://www.usa.gov/stop-scams-frauds https://www.usa.gov/stop-scams-frauds
- n00bface 5y ago
  Thanks. You got it.

oceanplexian 5y ago

What do you expect? These companies are making toys for retail consumers. If you want devices that guarantee data integrity for life or death, or commercial applications, those exist, come with lengthy contracts, and cost 100-1000x more than the consumer grade stuff. Like I seriously have a hard time empathizing with someone who thinks they are entitled to anything other than a basic RMA if their $60 SSD loses data

namibj 5y ago
There's a big difference in this depending on why the SSD lost the data. If it was fraudulently declaring a lack of write-back cache despite a lack of observed crash-consistency, due to not just innocent negligience in firmware development, that's far different from some genuine bug in the FTL messing up the data mapping.
MageSlayer 5y ago
Personally, I expect implementing specifications properly. That's it. About "commercial applications", let's face it. Those "enterprise solutions" cost way higher not because they are 10-1000x times "better", but because they contain generous "bonuses" for senior stuff.