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So what do you call closing people bank accounts because they donated 50$ to a protest? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10535361/Canadian-MP-says-sing

So what do you call closing people bank accounts because they donated 50$ to a protest? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10535361/Canadian-MP-says-single-mom-bank-account-frozen-donating-50-Freedom-Convoy.html https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10535361/Canadian-M...

arcticbull 5y ago
Not to a protest, to an unlawful occupation of the capital. I'm 100% behind that. I'm sorry. And so are over 2/3 of Canadians. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. [edit] I would be just as glib about someone who donated $50 to Hezbollah and got their accounts shut down. [edit2] Trudeau has a minority government, and minority governments both require another party to prop them up - and have an average tenure of 1 year and 140 days. It's been 154 days already. There will be an election in less than a year, on average. We have courts, we have ballot boxes. Use them. [edit3] I say this as someone who did not vote for the Liberals, and is open to revisiting restrictions.
- stickfigure 5y ago
  > I would be just as glib about someone who donated $50 to Hezbollah and got their accounts shut down. When the truckers start lobbing rockets into population zones, this comparison might be reasonable. The increasingly common habit of comparing everyone with Wrong Political Opinions to terrorists does not sit well with me.
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    I'm not - I'm saying that contributing to an unlawful activity after being warned not to, very publicly ("playing stupid games") is subject to winning stupid prizes.
- guilhas 5y ago
  People donate to a protest when they believe what they stand for, like being against mandatory vaccination, not when they made sure that every protester is following the law Besides how can a peaceful protest be unlawful? I hear that in China when protests are "unlawful" when they disagree with the great leader
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    There was a court case that settled this if you're curious to learn more. [1] Not only did they rule it unlawful, they gave the truckers a few hours after the ruling came down to vacate the area before it went into effect. They have been given every opportunity. They decided that rather than following the lawful orders of the court, they would simply continue their occupation. This isn't a protest, it's an unlawful occupation. Canada has a long history of peaceful protest. If they'd picketed on the streets in front of Parliament Hill as hundreds of thousands have done over the last century nobody would have batted an eyelash. In fact the government gave them three full weeks of outright occupation before they began to ask them to leave - then eventually told them to in no uncertain terms. After all there have been tens of other anti-vaxx protests in Canada over the last two years. None were treated this way. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60356461 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60356461
    - episteme 5y ago
      Nobody batting an eyelid probably isn't the goal of a protest though. I hope these peaceful protests sometimes do make a difference at least.
      - arcticbull 5y ago
        > Nobody batting an eyelid probably isn't the goal of a protest though. Indeed, but the protests made national news basically each time. There's a lot of folks from outside Canada suddenly paying attention when they were not, at all, paying attention to Canada over the last few months, years or even decades. Context matters and a lot of folks. I don't know if you're Canadian or not, but most commenters have none - but still insist on raising their pitchforks over something they either do not understand or do not have any context on.
    - guilhas 5y ago
      "The injunction was filed by the city of Windsor and the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, which argued that they were losing as much as $50m ($39m; £29m) per day because of the convoy" Really? A protest deemed illegal because some company is loosing money? That's one of the points of peaceful protest, making non violent pressure where possible. If there was no more food and they were blocking it I could understand, but this is just keeps getting more ridiculous. Please call in the emergency act used only 3 times in the past, 2 of them world wars BLM protests caused billions in damages, fire, looting, vandalism... And Trudeau supported it And peaceful protesters were harassed by police in other locations
crtasm 5y ago
After reading that piece I'd call it an unconfirmed claim. Has anyone else affected come forward?
- defaultname 5y ago
  Not only is it unconfirmed, it has been explicitly denied by banks, the government and the RCMP. Sanctions have only been levied on organizers and direct participants in the illegal occupation. The MP either lied, or got played by someone who knew he was a gullible tool.
danaris 5y ago
Not martial law.
defaultname 5y ago
It's called a lie by a conservative MP who is pandering to a very gullible base. I am deeply concerned for the rational judgment of anyone who actually believed that bit of nonsense. Every level of government has asked the MP to give details, because clearly it isn't true. He hasn't because the person does not exist. Ultimately he should resign. Either he was trolled and played, or he simply has so little respect for the public that he invented a tale to play on (largely foreign) beliefs.

arcticbull 5y ago

Not to a protest, to an unlawful occupation of the capital. I'm 100% behind that. I'm sorry. And so are over 2/3 of Canadians. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. [edit] I would be just as glib about someone who donated $50 to Hezbollah and got their accounts shut down. [edit2] Trudeau has a minority government, and minority governments both require another party to prop them up - and have an average tenure of 1 year and 140 days. It's been 154 days already. There will be an election in less than a year, on average. We have courts, we have ballot boxes. Use them. [edit3] I say this as someone who did not vote for the Liberals, and is open to revisiting restrictions.

stickfigure 5y ago
> I would be just as glib about someone who donated $50 to Hezbollah and got their accounts shut down. When the truckers start lobbing rockets into population zones, this comparison might be reasonable. The increasingly common habit of comparing everyone with Wrong Political Opinions to terrorists does not sit well with me.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  I'm not - I'm saying that contributing to an unlawful activity after being warned not to, very publicly ("playing stupid games") is subject to winning stupid prizes.
guilhas 5y ago
People donate to a protest when they believe what they stand for, like being against mandatory vaccination, not when they made sure that every protester is following the law Besides how can a peaceful protest be unlawful? I hear that in China when protests are "unlawful" when they disagree with the great leader
- arcticbull 5y ago
  There was a court case that settled this if you're curious to learn more. [1] Not only did they rule it unlawful, they gave the truckers a few hours after the ruling came down to vacate the area before it went into effect. They have been given every opportunity. They decided that rather than following the lawful orders of the court, they would simply continue their occupation. This isn't a protest, it's an unlawful occupation. Canada has a long history of peaceful protest. If they'd picketed on the streets in front of Parliament Hill as hundreds of thousands have done over the last century nobody would have batted an eyelash. In fact the government gave them three full weeks of outright occupation before they began to ask them to leave - then eventually told them to in no uncertain terms. After all there have been tens of other anti-vaxx protests in Canada over the last two years. None were treated this way. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60356461 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60356461
  - episteme 5y ago
    Nobody batting an eyelid probably isn't the goal of a protest though. I hope these peaceful protests sometimes do make a difference at least.
    - arcticbull 5y ago
      > Nobody batting an eyelid probably isn't the goal of a protest though. Indeed, but the protests made national news basically each time. There's a lot of folks from outside Canada suddenly paying attention when they were not, at all, paying attention to Canada over the last few months, years or even decades. Context matters and a lot of folks. I don't know if you're Canadian or not, but most commenters have none - but still insist on raising their pitchforks over something they either do not understand or do not have any context on.
  - guilhas 5y ago
    "The injunction was filed by the city of Windsor and the Automotive Parts Manufacturers' Association, which argued that they were losing as much as $50m ($39m; £29m) per day because of the convoy" Really? A protest deemed illegal because some company is loosing money? That's one of the points of peaceful protest, making non violent pressure where possible. If there was no more food and they were blocking it I could understand, but this is just keeps getting more ridiculous. Please call in the emergency act used only 3 times in the past, 2 of them world wars BLM protests caused billions in damages, fire, looting, vandalism... And Trudeau supported it And peaceful protesters were harassed by police in other locations

crtasm 5y ago

After reading that piece I'd call it an unconfirmed claim. Has anyone else affected come forward?

defaultname 5y ago
Not only is it unconfirmed, it has been explicitly denied by banks, the government and the RCMP. Sanctions have only been levied on organizers and direct participants in the illegal occupation. The MP either lied, or got played by someone who knew he was a gullible tool.

danaris 5y ago

Not martial law.

defaultname 5y ago

It's called a lie by a conservative MP who is pandering to a very gullible base. I am deeply concerned for the rational judgment of anyone who actually believed that bit of nonsense. Every level of government has asked the MP to give details, because clearly it isn't true. He hasn't because the person does not exist. Ultimately he should resign. Either he was trolled and played, or he simply has so little respect for the public that he invented a tale to play on (largely foreign) beliefs.