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This is full of factual errors, and garbage on the face of it. Canada is a rule-of-law, democratic society. The so-called protestors blocked off major ports of

This is full of factual errors, and garbage on the face of it. Canada is a rule-of-law, democratic society. The so-called protestors blocked off major ports of entry leading to material harm to businesses. They also violated the rights of individuals living within the downtown core (including my family) for weeks on end. They brought weapons with them, they built shanties and filled them with kerosene and propane. The plurality of Canadians voted for the government and the imposition of its lawful and constitutional restrictions in re: COVID. Were they unlawful or in violation of Charter rights, they could have used the courts but elected not to. Because they are lawful and in keeping with the Charter. Two thirds of Canadians support the use of the Emergencies Act in breakup up the unlawful protests. As the elder Trudeau said in the October Crisis re: the use of the military (which the junior Trudeau is not planning on doing): Yeah, well there's a lot of bleeding hearts around who just don't like to see people with helmets and guns. All I can say is, go on and bleed, but it's more important to keep law and order in this society than to be worried about weak-kneed people who don't like the looks of a soldier's helmet. If you want to change the Government, vote. Trudeau's Liberals are a minority government meaning they require the support of another major party to continue to be a government. If they fail to pass a confidence bill they will immediately be dissolved and face an election. The average tenure of a minority government in Canada is 1 year, 140 days. The use of Bitcoin in this manner is anti-Democratic as it seeks to overturn the lawful, constitutional decisions of the plurality - and to overturn the last election. We have ways of sorting this out in Canada. You vote. If you see yourself supporting these anti-Democratic viewpoints, ask yourselves: "Are we the baddies?" [edit] Not only did I not vote for the Liberals in the last election, I'm open to re-evaluating the COVID restrictions too. But not with a boot to the neck. The unlawful protests must end. Then we can talk.

ComradePhil 5y ago
There's voting in Democratic Republic of Korea too. It doesn't help if anyone speaking against the mass propaganda is silenced.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  > There's voting in Democratic Republic of Korea too. Wow that's a really interesting fact about North Korea that has absolutely and unequivocally nothing to do with Canada. > It doesn't help if anyone speaking against the mass propaganda is silenced. Except they're not. So. After all, I can hear you now, Comrade Phil. Consider than rather than being silenced, people may just not agree with these fringe positions?
  - ComradePhil 5y ago
    > Wow that's a really interesting fact about North Korea that has absolutely and unequivocally nothing to do with Canada. Except it's all the same everywhere. Maybe you habe never been out of your well so you don't know. Just so you know, free speech is protected right as per the North Korean constitution... except in practice, it's just like Canada. > Consider than rather than being silenced, people may just not agree with these fringe positions? What fringe position? That vaccines without long term data and questionable efficacy against the prevalent variant should not be mandated? Which other country has mandated it?
    - arcticbull 5y ago
      > Except it's all the same everywhere. Maybe you habe never been out of your well so you don't know. Just so you know, free speech is protected right as per the North Korean constitution... except in practice, it's just like Canada. I grew up all over the world, including having lived in the US, Canada, KSA, and plenty of other places. I've also traveled to 50 countries or so. I strongly suspect I have seen more of the world than you have. I can tell you that you are unequivocally wrong if you think that NK is anything like CA. It's a fun narrative of the uninformed. > What fringe position? That vaccines without long term data and questionable efficacy against the prevalent variant should not be mandated? Which other country has mandated it? Yes this is a fringe position that the science does not support. It is clear that the hospitalization and death rates are orders of magnitude higher in the unvaccinated, and at the moment, I support policies which keep ICUs and hospital resources at or below capacity. Your positions are not in keeping with that. I support mandatory vaccination campaigns until removing all restrictions would keep hospitals from being flooded, then lifting all restrictions.
SamReidHughes 5y ago
> Canada is a rule-of-law, democratic society. Flat out wrong. Canada is freezing accounts of people who weren't violating any law, with ex post facto laws.
- arcticbull 5y ago
  No, they're freezing accounts of folks who contributed financially to the unlawful occupation of Ottawa. An action that's supported by over 66% of Canadians. These aren't ex-post facto laws.
- anonymousab 5y ago
  > Canada is freezing accounts of people who weren't violating any law They outright lost in court.
- defaultname 5y ago
  Canada is freezing the accounts of people who organized or directly participated in this illegal occupation. Any news you've read to the contrary has been, as some groups like to scream, "fake news". Literal fake news. It would be such political hay if a single such case came forward. A minority government hangs in the balance, and can be ousted (insofar as a new election is called) immediately. Do you know why no verifiable case has come forward? Because the cases you heard of were lies.
ivanvas 5y ago
> If you see yourself supporting these anti-Democratic viewpoints, ask yourselves: "Are we the baddies?" I think only in the domain of history the "baddies" term make sense. Until then (historical perspective and taking the survival bias into consideration), the majority is "just" that. Not to dismiss it, of course, being a basis of democracy.
frollo 5y ago
Yeah, but have you considered that liberal man bad?

ComradePhil 5y ago

There's voting in Democratic Republic of Korea too. It doesn't help if anyone speaking against the mass propaganda is silenced.

arcticbull 5y ago
> There's voting in Democratic Republic of Korea too. Wow that's a really interesting fact about North Korea that has absolutely and unequivocally nothing to do with Canada. > It doesn't help if anyone speaking against the mass propaganda is silenced. Except they're not. So. After all, I can hear you now, Comrade Phil. Consider than rather than being silenced, people may just not agree with these fringe positions?
- ComradePhil 5y ago
  > Wow that's a really interesting fact about North Korea that has absolutely and unequivocally nothing to do with Canada. Except it's all the same everywhere. Maybe you habe never been out of your well so you don't know. Just so you know, free speech is protected right as per the North Korean constitution... except in practice, it's just like Canada. > Consider than rather than being silenced, people may just not agree with these fringe positions? What fringe position? That vaccines without long term data and questionable efficacy against the prevalent variant should not be mandated? Which other country has mandated it?
  - arcticbull 5y ago
    > Except it's all the same everywhere. Maybe you habe never been out of your well so you don't know. Just so you know, free speech is protected right as per the North Korean constitution... except in practice, it's just like Canada. I grew up all over the world, including having lived in the US, Canada, KSA, and plenty of other places. I've also traveled to 50 countries or so. I strongly suspect I have seen more of the world than you have. I can tell you that you are unequivocally wrong if you think that NK is anything like CA. It's a fun narrative of the uninformed. > What fringe position? That vaccines without long term data and questionable efficacy against the prevalent variant should not be mandated? Which other country has mandated it? Yes this is a fringe position that the science does not support. It is clear that the hospitalization and death rates are orders of magnitude higher in the unvaccinated, and at the moment, I support policies which keep ICUs and hospital resources at or below capacity. Your positions are not in keeping with that. I support mandatory vaccination campaigns until removing all restrictions would keep hospitals from being flooded, then lifting all restrictions.

SamReidHughes 5y ago

> Canada is a rule-of-law, democratic society. Flat out wrong. Canada is freezing accounts of people who weren't violating any law, with ex post facto laws.

arcticbull 5y ago
No, they're freezing accounts of folks who contributed financially to the unlawful occupation of Ottawa. An action that's supported by over 66% of Canadians. These aren't ex-post facto laws.
anonymousab 5y ago
> Canada is freezing accounts of people who weren't violating any law They outright lost in court.
defaultname 5y ago
Canada is freezing the accounts of people who organized or directly participated in this illegal occupation. Any news you've read to the contrary has been, as some groups like to scream, "fake news". Literal fake news. It would be such political hay if a single such case came forward. A minority government hangs in the balance, and can be ousted (insofar as a new election is called) immediately. Do you know why no verifiable case has come forward? Because the cases you heard of were lies.

ivanvas 5y ago

> If you see yourself supporting these anti-Democratic viewpoints, ask yourselves: "Are we the baddies?" I think only in the domain of history the "baddies" term make sense. Until then (historical perspective and taking the survival bias into consideration), the majority is "just" that. Not to dismiss it, of course, being a basis of democracy.

frollo 5y ago

Yeah, but have you considered that liberal man bad?