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> One idiot or provocateur in a sea of tens of thousands does not override the 99%. That's an absurd, lazy smear. Do you feel the same about the BLM protests?

colpabar 5y ago
This is a really lazy whataboutism. Let's assume that both the blm protests and the convoy both had "a few idiots or provocateurs in a sea of tens of thousands." Now compare the media coverage and government handling of the two things, and compare how those idiots are portrayed compared to the tens of thousands. Do you see a difference? It seems to me that all blm-related events are generally considered peaceful protests (even the ones where buildings are burned down), while the convoy is nothing but a big nazi flag waving party. Did any blm related entity have their bank accounts frozen?
- bryanlarsen 5y ago
  What buildings were burnt by BLM in Canada? There was an attempted arson in Ottawa at the time of the trucker occupation, though.
- throw_nbvc1234 5y ago
  And I bet people who watched fox news have a different perspective on how peaceful/violent some BLM protests were. What's even worse is that people getting their news from social media are going to be fed a single narrative and be entirely unaware of it; at least with entities like fox news/CNN or sub-reddits, someone can actively seek out multiple narratives around an event. > Did any blm related entity have their bank accounts frozen? Interesting to think about. Just imagine the headline of "Donald trump freezes bank accounts of BLM protestors" and the uproar and legal battles that would immediately follow. Different countries (laws, rights, legal precedents), different levels of public support for the underlying cause, "black bloc" obscuring the protestor identities.
- bryanlarsen 5y ago
  > Did any blm related entity have their bank accounts frozen? Yes. https://nypost.com/2022/02/17/amazon-suspends-black-lives-matter-from-its-charity-platform/ https://nypost.com/2022/02/17/amazon-suspends-black-lives-ma...
  - therealdrag0 5y ago
    Not even comparable example. That is a really sad contribution. Very misleading
JoshuaDavid 5y ago
Attempting to retroactively and without due process freeze the finances of anyone who donated to the BLM protests would be just as far out of line as doing the same to anyone who donated to the Ottowa protests. Even in cases like the sanctions on Iran, I don't think we attempt to prosecute people who had financial interactions with Iranian people or businesses before the sanctions were imposed.

colpabar 5y ago

This is a really lazy whataboutism. Let's assume that both the blm protests and the convoy both had "a few idiots or provocateurs in a sea of tens of thousands." Now compare the media coverage and government handling of the two things, and compare how those idiots are portrayed compared to the tens of thousands. Do you see a difference? It seems to me that all blm-related events are generally considered peaceful protests (even the ones where buildings are burned down), while the convoy is nothing but a big nazi flag waving party. Did any blm related entity have their bank accounts frozen?

bryanlarsen 5y ago
What buildings were burnt by BLM in Canada? There was an attempted arson in Ottawa at the time of the trucker occupation, though.
throw_nbvc1234 5y ago
And I bet people who watched fox news have a different perspective on how peaceful/violent some BLM protests were. What's even worse is that people getting their news from social media are going to be fed a single narrative and be entirely unaware of it; at least with entities like fox news/CNN or sub-reddits, someone can actively seek out multiple narratives around an event. > Did any blm related entity have their bank accounts frozen? Interesting to think about. Just imagine the headline of "Donald trump freezes bank accounts of BLM protestors" and the uproar and legal battles that would immediately follow. Different countries (laws, rights, legal precedents), different levels of public support for the underlying cause, "black bloc" obscuring the protestor identities.
bryanlarsen 5y ago
> Did any blm related entity have their bank accounts frozen? Yes. https://nypost.com/2022/02/17/amazon-suspends-black-lives-matter-from-its-charity-platform/ https://nypost.com/2022/02/17/amazon-suspends-black-lives-ma...
- therealdrag0 5y ago
  Not even comparable example. That is a really sad contribution. Very misleading

JoshuaDavid 5y ago

Attempting to retroactively and without due process freeze the finances of anyone who donated to the BLM protests would be just as far out of line as doing the same to anyone who donated to the Ottowa protests. Even in cases like the sanctions on Iran, I don't think we attempt to prosecute people who had financial interactions with Iranian people or businesses before the sanctions were imposed.