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I don’t know what it is about the culture of broadcast journalism and ENG that is so appealing. Despite not working in the industry, I’ve loved films like Broad

by keane 5y ago

I don’t know what it is about the culture of broadcast journalism and ENG that is so appealing. Despite not working in the industry, I’ve loved films like Broadcast News where I’ve felt great affinity to the struggle of it all and books like Bob Dotson’s Make It Memorable where I’ve picked up lingo like “stand ups”. I think it’s maybe the duck-taped-together underdog feel and (approximate) egalitarianism of the culture but I can’t quite put my finger on it.

erulabs 5y ago
It’s also one of the rare careers that still feels heroic. Everyone knows we need good journalists - it might be the last thing everyone agrees on.
- mike50 5y ago
  TV news is barely journalism nowadays. It's a mechanical Turk text to speech. Local broadcast stations are marginally better IF you are in or near a major city.
- KerrAvon 5y ago
  Never talked to a Trump voter?
  - erulabs 5y ago
    Isn't that their main argument? They say "today's journalists are bad at journalism" not "journalism is bad". "Fake news" with a negative intonation must imply that it's bad to fake something so important?
    - TheGoddessInari 5y ago
      On the contrary, "fake news" is just applied to everything they disagree with. This is partly a consequence from the main "right wing" news source (Fox News) is happy to endorse the legal argument that their shows are entertainment only, and that no reasonable person would actually take their hosts seriously [0]. They have people on air willing to peddle any old conspiracy theory at length. And to them, this is the main outlet that dispenses truthiness. [0] https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-...
      - erulabs 5y ago
        I'm sure you can find plenty of crazy people doing crazy things. I try to look for the rational argument behind the straw-man. If someone is upset about "fake news", to me, that implies they believe that "real news" can exist. If they're mistaken or not is entirely besides the point.

by keane 5y ago

erulabs 5y ago

It’s also one of the rare careers that still feels heroic. Everyone knows we need good journalists - it might be the last thing everyone agrees on.

mike50 5y ago
TV news is barely journalism nowadays. It's a mechanical Turk text to speech. Local broadcast stations are marginally better IF you are in or near a major city.
KerrAvon 5y ago
Never talked to a Trump voter?
- erulabs 5y ago
  Isn't that their main argument? They say "today's journalists are bad at journalism" not "journalism is bad". "Fake news" with a negative intonation must imply that it's bad to fake something so important?
  - TheGoddessInari 5y ago
    On the contrary, "fake news" is just applied to everything they disagree with. This is partly a consequence from the main "right wing" news source (Fox News) is happy to endorse the legal argument that their shows are entertainment only, and that no reasonable person would actually take their hosts seriously [0]. They have people on air willing to peddle any old conspiracy theory at length. And to them, this is the main outlet that dispenses truthiness. [0] https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-believe-the-facts-tucker-carlson-tells-you-so-say-fox-s-lawye https://www.npr.org/2020/09/29/917747123/you-literally-cant-...
    - erulabs 5y ago
      I'm sure you can find plenty of crazy people doing crazy things. I try to look for the rational argument behind the straw-man. If someone is upset about "fake news", to me, that implies they believe that "real news" can exist. If they're mistaken or not is entirely besides the point.