I did mention working on Spring projects, which was a monolith that did use Maven. The slow part wasn't Maven or the dependencies, it was the Spring startup wit

I did mention working on Spring projects, which was a monolith that did use Maven. The slow part wasn't Maven or the dependencies, it was the Spring startup with all the dependency injection and filter loading taking most of the 2 minutes. There was also some Thrift generation but again that was rather quick. I would classify this as self-inflicted as I don't believe there's anything intrinsic to what's going on for it to be as slow as it is, only poor implementation of extensibility or other ideas (maybe JPQL, idk).