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I'm curious why the person doing the yelling wasn't named. Chris gets named for leaving, but the person doing the yelling doesn't. I've seen this over and ove

by krupan 5y ago

I'm curious why the person doing the yelling wasn't named. Chris gets named for leaving, but the person doing the yelling doesn't. I've seen this over and over in various professional settings and it doesn't make sense to me to protect and hide the people behaving unprofessionally. Maybe they'd learn and work on their behavior if someone told them? UPDATE: very good points below about the internet mob that would attack in response. Sad, but true.

fullshark 5y ago
Publicly naming and shaming would be an escalation that he doesn’t want to partake in. Better to let whoever has knowledge of incident know how impactful it was and move on.
bla3 5y ago
Because random people yelling isn't that interesting; it's more interesting that it apparently had no consequences for them. And that's on team leadership, not on the yelling person.
mijoharas 5y ago
I think it makes a lot of sense. This is a post to the internet, and I don't think having someone get flamed by a bunch of people online is a conducive way to settle a disagreement, whether they were being unprofessional or not. > Maybe they'd learn and work on their behavior if someone told them? I think the problem here is that there would be an online mob constantly telling them.
techdragon 5y ago
It’s a charity thing. We want to be charitable, we don’t want to assume the worst, we want to assume they can learn, be better, without the maximal social punishment that would likely ensue from naming them publicly… At least that’s the positive angle. The negative one is they are some kind of scumbag with enough leverage to keep their ass covered and picked a fight they thought they could win, but didn’t win enough to avoid consequences, just not public consequences.
gameswithgo 5y ago
There is in general an asymmetry between good and evil, because good will follow rules and be civil and evil will do whatever it takes to win.
- lamontcg 5y ago
  Competent evil is usually civil in public and uses civility as a weapon to suppress any kind of frustrated dissent that isn't expressed perfectly calmly.
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bombcar 5y ago
It's a variation of Postel's law - "be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept". Those who were involved know without a doubt, and the rest of us really need not know details. Especially since words once said/written can never be taken back.

by krupan 5y ago

fullshark 5y ago

Publicly naming and shaming would be an escalation that he doesn’t want to partake in. Better to let whoever has knowledge of incident know how impactful it was and move on.

bla3 5y ago

Because random people yelling isn't that interesting; it's more interesting that it apparently had no consequences for them. And that's on team leadership, not on the yelling person.

mijoharas 5y ago

I think it makes a lot of sense. This is a post to the internet, and I don't think having someone get flamed by a bunch of people online is a conducive way to settle a disagreement, whether they were being unprofessional or not. > Maybe they'd learn and work on their behavior if someone told them? I think the problem here is that there would be an online mob constantly telling them.

techdragon 5y ago

It’s a charity thing. We want to be charitable, we don’t want to assume the worst, we want to assume they can learn, be better, without the maximal social punishment that would likely ensue from naming them publicly… At least that’s the positive angle. The negative one is they are some kind of scumbag with enough leverage to keep their ass covered and picked a fight they thought they could win, but didn’t win enough to avoid consequences, just not public consequences.

gameswithgo 5y ago

There is in general an asymmetry between good and evil, because good will follow rules and be civil and evil will do whatever it takes to win.

lamontcg 5y ago
Competent evil is usually civil in public and uses civility as a weapon to suppress any kind of frustrated dissent that isn't expressed perfectly calmly.

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bombcar 5y ago

It's a variation of Postel's law - "be conservative in what you send, be liberal in what you accept". Those who were involved know without a doubt, and the rest of us really need not know details. Especially since words once said/written can never be taken back.