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Please note that the Canadian government has, in the past, on multiple occasions [0], used agents provocateurs to falsely smear a protest movement by planting t

by lowkey 5y ago

Please note that the Canadian government has, in the past, on multiple occasions [0], used agents provocateurs to falsely smear a protest movement by planting their own agents who attempt to inflame a situation. For example, trying to turn peaceful protests violent. To my knowledge, there was a singular incident of Nazi flag on the very first day of a 25 day protest. There is also some evidence that it may have actually been the PM's personal photographer who took the photos of the Nazi flag [1]. It is also a curious fact that this flag incident took place at the Fairmont Chateau Laurier, a $300/night luxury hotel in the heart of Ottawa, known for hosting foreign dignitaries and heads of state, that now curiously houses a large contingent of police from all over Canada [2]. It seems suspect to think that truckers and racists would choose such an iconic and expensive venue to display this symbol of hate. Given that most of us never expected the severe curtailing of civil liberties by a liberal democracy such as Canada, I think it is prudent for us all to be skeptical about the facts on the ground in this incident as it almost appear engineered to sow the seeds of hate against the protesters in this case. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur#Canada https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agent_provocateur#Canada [1] https://twitter.com/McloughlinGuy/status/1489468112009408514/photo/1 https://twitter.com/McloughlinGuy/status/1489468112009408514... [2] https://twitter.com/GuitarBill609/status/1495447010291372034/photo/1 https://twitter.com/GuitarBill609/status/1495447010291372034...

kingofpandora 5y ago
There is no evidence it was "Trudeau's personal photographer" that took the picture in question. Zero.
- lowkey 5y ago
  I apologize. I overstepped and will correct my previous comment with a note. I do find it suspect that this all went down at the Fairmont Chateau Laurier which is a hotel most well known for hosting foreign dignitaries and heads of state, as well as more recently large numbers of police brought in from around the country. This single nazi flag incident has been repeated by the government and it's proponent so many times now to paint this entire movement as racist which is do feel is an unfair characterization of the protesters, most of whom were simply Canadians who felt the need to be heard.
  - rescripting 5y ago
    They’re walking up the pedestrian walkway that wraps around the outside of the Chateau Laurier from Major’s Hill Park to Wellington, the street Parliament is on. You don’t need to be staying at the hotel, or even visiting the hotel to use it. Thousands of pedestrians, including many tourists coming from other hotels downtown, use that walkway every day to access Wellington and the Parliament. It’s also a great vantage point to be seen from the bridge spanning the canal, where I assume this photo was taken. So no, this did not “all go down at the Chateau Laurier”, it went down outside it, on a heavily trafficked public walkway.
lowkey 5y ago
Replying to my own comment as I am no longer able to edit. I retract the following claim in my parent comment. > There is also some evidence that it may have actually been the PM's personal photographer who took the photos of the Nazi flag [1] Correction: There is NO evidence that the PM's personal photographer was a party to this photo incident. I regret making that unsubstantiated claim.

by lowkey 5y ago

kingofpandora 5y ago

There is no evidence it was "Trudeau's personal photographer" that took the picture in question. Zero.

lowkey 5y ago
I apologize. I overstepped and will correct my previous comment with a note. I do find it suspect that this all went down at the Fairmont Chateau Laurier which is a hotel most well known for hosting foreign dignitaries and heads of state, as well as more recently large numbers of police brought in from around the country. This single nazi flag incident has been repeated by the government and it's proponent so many times now to paint this entire movement as racist which is do feel is an unfair characterization of the protesters, most of whom were simply Canadians who felt the need to be heard.
- rescripting 5y ago
  They’re walking up the pedestrian walkway that wraps around the outside of the Chateau Laurier from Major’s Hill Park to Wellington, the street Parliament is on. You don’t need to be staying at the hotel, or even visiting the hotel to use it. Thousands of pedestrians, including many tourists coming from other hotels downtown, use that walkway every day to access Wellington and the Parliament. It’s also a great vantage point to be seen from the bridge spanning the canal, where I assume this photo was taken. So no, this did not “all go down at the Chateau Laurier”, it went down outside it, on a heavily trafficked public walkway.

lowkey 5y ago

Replying to my own comment as I am no longer able to edit. I retract the following claim in my parent comment. > There is also some evidence that it may have actually been the PM's personal photographer who took the photos of the Nazi flag [1] Correction: There is NO evidence that the PM's personal photographer was a party to this photo incident. I regret making that unsubstantiated claim.