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Ten years is a really long time in tech. And you can pay Apple to replace the battery for you. "we will keep this next iPhone secure and working snappily for b

Ten years is a really long time in tech. And you can pay Apple to replace the battery for you. "we will keep this next iPhone secure and working snappily for basic tasks, web/email/utility apps" --- No Android phone maker can even make this guarantee for more than 2 years.

spacehunt 5y ago
> No Android phone maker can even make this guarantee for more than 2 years. Samsung pledges 4 OS updates, 5 years of patches for 2021 and 2022 flagships https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_pledges_4_os_updates_5_years_of_patches_for_2021_and_2022_flagships-news-53070.php https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_pledges_4_os_updates_5_year...
- hddherman 5y ago
  That's the issue, only flagships. All the more affordable and mainstream models don't get any meaningful software support. Apple has some horrific practices that I don't agree with when it comes to repairability, but at least it treats its products the same way. The iPhone SE from 2016 still runs the latest iOS version, same for iPhone 7.
  - spacehunt 5y ago
    I'm mainly taking issue with the original claim of "No Android phone maker can even make this guarantee for more than 2 years." I don't really care what Apple does because I'm not in the market for iOS phones. With regards to non-flagship models, Samsung is providing 3 years of updates for the A52, which still beats the grandparent comment's claim.
- shantara 5y ago
  It still remains to be proven in practice. Their past track record shows that even for higher end devices the promised monthly updates silently become quarterly, or get delayed or mysteriously disappear as soon as the next year devices hit the shelves.
  - spacehunt 5y ago
    Do you have proof? My Note 20 Ultra (released in 2020) received 3 updates in the past 35 days -- and this is for a region that's trailing Europe and the US in terms of updates. https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9860/TGY/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9860/TGY/doc.html
    - shantara 5y ago
      Search for “Samsung quarterly updates”. There’s plenty of information online https://9to5google.com/2021/04/05/samsung-drops-galaxy-s9-down-to-quarterly-updates-days-after-sending-out-april-patch/ https://9to5google.com/2021/04/05/samsung-drops-galaxy-s9-do... https://r2.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-9-quarterly-security-update/td-p/10525247 https://r2.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Samsung-Gala...
      - spacehunt 5y ago
        I have the S9 too. What was unexpected was that it still received monthly updates for 3 years and then down to quarterly updates after that. (Samsung did not promise anything and the usual practice was updates for 2 years *at the time when I bought it*). S9: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G9600/TGY/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G9600/TGY/doc.html Note 9: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9600/TGY/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9600/TGY/doc.html You can see they still received updates this month.
- pie42000 5y ago
  Samsung phones are laggy day one though, and the UI makes your eyes bleed from disgust.

spacehunt 5y ago

> No Android phone maker can even make this guarantee for more than 2 years. Samsung pledges 4 OS updates, 5 years of patches for 2021 and 2022 flagships https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_pledges_4_os_updates_5_years_of_patches_for_2021_and_2022_flagships-news-53070.php https://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_pledges_4_os_updates_5_year...

hddherman 5y ago
That's the issue, only flagships. All the more affordable and mainstream models don't get any meaningful software support. Apple has some horrific practices that I don't agree with when it comes to repairability, but at least it treats its products the same way. The iPhone SE from 2016 still runs the latest iOS version, same for iPhone 7.
- spacehunt 5y ago
  I'm mainly taking issue with the original claim of "No Android phone maker can even make this guarantee for more than 2 years." I don't really care what Apple does because I'm not in the market for iOS phones. With regards to non-flagship models, Samsung is providing 3 years of updates for the A52, which still beats the grandparent comment's claim.
shantara 5y ago
It still remains to be proven in practice. Their past track record shows that even for higher end devices the promised monthly updates silently become quarterly, or get delayed or mysteriously disappear as soon as the next year devices hit the shelves.
- spacehunt 5y ago
  Do you have proof? My Note 20 Ultra (released in 2020) received 3 updates in the past 35 days -- and this is for a region that's trailing Europe and the US in terms of updates. https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9860/TGY/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9860/TGY/doc.html
  - shantara 5y ago
    Search for “Samsung quarterly updates”. There’s plenty of information online https://9to5google.com/2021/04/05/samsung-drops-galaxy-s9-down-to-quarterly-updates-days-after-sending-out-april-patch/ https://9to5google.com/2021/04/05/samsung-drops-galaxy-s9-do... https://r2.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-9-quarterly-security-update/td-p/10525247 https://r2.community.samsung.com/t5/Galaxy-Note/Samsung-Gala...
    - spacehunt 5y ago
      I have the S9 too. What was unexpected was that it still received monthly updates for 3 years and then down to quarterly updates after that. (Samsung did not promise anything and the usual practice was updates for 2 years *at the time when I bought it*). S9: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G9600/TGY/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-G9600/TGY/doc.html Note 9: https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9600/TGY/doc.html https://doc.samsungmobile.com/SM-N9600/TGY/doc.html You can see they still received updates this month.
pie42000 5y ago
Samsung phones are laggy day one though, and the UI makes your eyes bleed from disgust.