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Well, in the city centers, bikes are a LOT faster than both cars and pedestrians. Within cities, bikes should share the road with motorists. Outside of cities

Well, in the city centers, bikes are a LOT faster than both cars and pedestrians. Within cities, bikes should share the road with motorists. Outside of cities, they should share with pedestrians.

hulitu 5y ago
Until as a pedestrian, you are hit by a bike.
twic 5y ago
This aligns with my experience. I cycle a lot in inner London - zones 1 - 2 ish. There are a few cycle lanes, paths through parks, canal towpaths, etc, but mostly, i'm on the road. For me, that's fine; traffic is never very fast, and the next junction is never far away, so there's a mix of overtaking cars, being overtaken by cars, and each of us blocking the other for a little while where there's no room to overtake. Also, there are a lot of bus lanes, which are even better - fewer vehicles, and less likely to misbehave. I occasionally cycle in outer London, and there, i'm glad of the network of long-distance cycle paths, sparse though it is. Speeds are higher, and drivers are more impatient. I once cycled in Swindon, including across the White Hart roundabout. I won't be doing that again.
petre 5y ago
Hungary has a great approach. The "cycling" infra is shared with tractors and carts outside of cities. They're basically agricultural access roads.
- wiredfool 5y ago
  I didn’t notice any cycling infra when I was there 2 years back, and as far as I could tell, some regional roads were barred to cyclists. (To the point of a randonneur ride around lake Balaton advertising that you needed specific permits for the main road) Not that the side roads were bad. Cars were better behaved than they are in Ireland anyway.
  - rexpress 5y ago
    Cycling provision in Hungary is patchy, to a point where journeys may be impossible in areas where cycling is banned on certain roads. But as far as I can tell (without being able to understand Hungarian), it seems that there is a big push underway to develop infrastructure. I recently had a ride from Bük to Csepreg which was mainly on a separate cycleway by the road. From Csepreg I was able to enter forest tracks which were very beautiful. I've also noticed quite a bit of new infrastructure in various parts of the country. I can imagine Hungary becoming a very appealing cycling destination if they continue to develop the network.
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Well, in the city centers, bikes are a LOT faster than both cars and pedestrians. Within cities, bikes should share the road with motorists. Outside of cities, they should share with pedestrians.

hulitu 5y ago

Until as a pedestrian, you are hit by a bike.

twic 5y ago

This aligns with my experience. I cycle a lot in inner London - zones 1 - 2 ish. There are a few cycle lanes, paths through parks, canal towpaths, etc, but mostly, i'm on the road. For me, that's fine; traffic is never very fast, and the next junction is never far away, so there's a mix of overtaking cars, being overtaken by cars, and each of us blocking the other for a little while where there's no room to overtake. Also, there are a lot of bus lanes, which are even better - fewer vehicles, and less likely to misbehave. I occasionally cycle in outer London, and there, i'm glad of the network of long-distance cycle paths, sparse though it is. Speeds are higher, and drivers are more impatient. I once cycled in Swindon, including across the White Hart roundabout. I won't be doing that again.

petre 5y ago

Hungary has a great approach. The "cycling" infra is shared with tractors and carts outside of cities. They're basically agricultural access roads.

wiredfool 5y ago
I didn’t notice any cycling infra when I was there 2 years back, and as far as I could tell, some regional roads were barred to cyclists. (To the point of a randonneur ride around lake Balaton advertising that you needed specific permits for the main road) Not that the side roads were bad. Cars were better behaved than they are in Ireland anyway.
- rexpress 5y ago
  Cycling provision in Hungary is patchy, to a point where journeys may be impossible in areas where cycling is banned on certain roads. But as far as I can tell (without being able to understand Hungarian), it seems that there is a big push underway to develop infrastructure. I recently had a ride from Bük to Csepreg which was mainly on a separate cycleway by the road. From Csepreg I was able to enter forest tracks which were very beautiful. I've also noticed quite a bit of new infrastructure in various parts of the country. I can imagine Hungary becoming a very appealing cycling destination if they continue to develop the network.

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