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boohoo, you only earn 70-80k EUR bruto. And you get to live in Europe as well?? You realize the average bruto salary in (west) Europe is around 20-30K EUR? Even

boohoo, you only earn 70-80k EUR bruto. And you get to live in Europe as well?? You realize the average bruto salary in (west) Europe is around 20-30K EUR? Even lower in east Europe? You are one of the luckiest, most privileged people alive. Yes, there's always a bigger fish/higher salary. But christ, get some perspective.

durnygbur 5y ago
I don't consider this entitled. The highest income tax rate kicks in at around 55-60k EUR and any amount above this translates into miniscule increase in net salary. Then EU companies during recruitment use the same tools and platforms as US companies who pay >>100k. No Amazon and Gloglle and silly startup in Berlin, with the salaries available over here I'll not study 2 months for your cutthroat tests and assignments.
nivenkos 5y ago
I pay 40% income tax (56% marginal), 25% sales tax, 35% electricity tax. It means 80k doesn't go as far as it'd seem, especially with increasing interest rates. Considering Americans are on 200k+, it just doesn't compare.
- bruce343434 5y ago
  I doubt it to be honest. I think that that's just the bragging, survivor biased subset of the top enclave of salaries you can get in crazy expensive places like SF, NY, CA. And you still have taxes there, and (health) insurance costs a lot more.
  - fatnoah 5y ago
    Tax burden in those areas (all-in, including federal, state, and city) reaches 50% at the highest tiers, but 50% of $200k+ is a lot of money. Health insurance for bigger companies is usually very good, with about you paying around $400/month out of pocket for your family with a low/no deductible plan. That comes out pre-tax, so the true cost is lower, depending on your tax bracket. The end result is that insurance ends up being significantly less than 1% of your income at that level. That highlights the main problem with health care in the US, which is that your quality of care depends entirely on your employer.
ChuckNorris89 5y ago
>boohoo, you only earn 70-80k EUR bruto. And you get to live in Europe as well?? You realize the average bruto salary in (west) Europe is around 20-30K EUR? Have you looked at property prices in Western EU cities? Those salaries don't buy you anything decent. Meanwhile in places like the bigger cities in Texas, any skilled employee can pay off a big house in no-time.

durnygbur 5y ago

I don't consider this entitled. The highest income tax rate kicks in at around 55-60k EUR and any amount above this translates into miniscule increase in net salary. Then EU companies during recruitment use the same tools and platforms as US companies who pay >>100k. No Amazon and Gloglle and silly startup in Berlin, with the salaries available over here I'll not study 2 months for your cutthroat tests and assignments.

nivenkos 5y ago

I pay 40% income tax (56% marginal), 25% sales tax, 35% electricity tax. It means 80k doesn't go as far as it'd seem, especially with increasing interest rates. Considering Americans are on 200k+, it just doesn't compare.

bruce343434 5y ago
I doubt it to be honest. I think that that's just the bragging, survivor biased subset of the top enclave of salaries you can get in crazy expensive places like SF, NY, CA. And you still have taxes there, and (health) insurance costs a lot more.
- fatnoah 5y ago
  Tax burden in those areas (all-in, including federal, state, and city) reaches 50% at the highest tiers, but 50% of $200k+ is a lot of money. Health insurance for bigger companies is usually very good, with about you paying around $400/month out of pocket for your family with a low/no deductible plan. That comes out pre-tax, so the true cost is lower, depending on your tax bracket. The end result is that insurance ends up being significantly less than 1% of your income at that level. That highlights the main problem with health care in the US, which is that your quality of care depends entirely on your employer.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago

>boohoo, you only earn 70-80k EUR bruto. And you get to live in Europe as well?? You realize the average bruto salary in (west) Europe is around 20-30K EUR? Have you looked at property prices in Western EU cities? Those salaries don't buy you anything decent. Meanwhile in places like the bigger cities in Texas, any skilled employee can pay off a big house in no-time.