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Doctors and lawyers have way more integrity and status, because they are well rounded people as well as experts. They can put their knowledge to the best possib

by jseban 5y ago

Doctors and lawyers have way more integrity and status, because they are well rounded people as well as experts. They can put their knowledge to the best possible use. In the software industry there is a lingering stereotype of the eccentric genius who is really good with computers, and really bad at everything else in life, and their computer skills make up for lacking a lot of basic skills of a functioning adult, such as lack of judgement and perspective. It's expected that software developers are odd and lopsided people who need someone else to babysit them and provide judgement and direction, and by now this has become the norm in the industry and is an established culture in the workplaces, so it also gets perpetuated and it's really hard to even be a well rounded software developer.

mstipetic 5y ago
As someone who has managed developers And worked as a developer I’m not sure that’s completely untrue. I’ve seen bored devops people starting to build their own ci/cd system, massive meetings where people started building their own micro service framework, a dev in my startup spent a month reworking things into sagas with no consideration that we have no product market fit yet, people that insist on “contributing their thoughts” even though they’re not the least qualified or experienced… I’ve seen millions and millions of euros get wasted on things that don’t matter.
- heurisko 5y ago
  > I’ve seen bored devops people starting to build their own ci/cd system I've seen this too. It added tons of overhead before it was rightly cancelled. > I’ve seen millions and millions of euros get wasted on things that don’t matter. To be fair, I've also seen this from the business side. A great number of ill thought out unsuccessful projects, that are dispiriting to work on, as you know from the beginning that they will not be a success for concrete reasons, e.g. using an immature piece of software that doesn't support the features required.
- marcellus23 5y ago
  This is not unique, at all, to developers.

by jseban 5y ago

mstipetic 5y ago

As someone who has managed developers And worked as a developer I’m not sure that’s completely untrue. I’ve seen bored devops people starting to build their own ci/cd system, massive meetings where people started building their own micro service framework, a dev in my startup spent a month reworking things into sagas with no consideration that we have no product market fit yet, people that insist on “contributing their thoughts” even though they’re not the least qualified or experienced… I’ve seen millions and millions of euros get wasted on things that don’t matter.

heurisko 5y ago
> I’ve seen bored devops people starting to build their own ci/cd system I've seen this too. It added tons of overhead before it was rightly cancelled. > I’ve seen millions and millions of euros get wasted on things that don’t matter. To be fair, I've also seen this from the business side. A great number of ill thought out unsuccessful projects, that are dispiriting to work on, as you know from the beginning that they will not be a success for concrete reasons, e.g. using an immature piece of software that doesn't support the features required.
marcellus23 5y ago
This is not unique, at all, to developers.