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Agreed. To add to that I would say that publishing a website (if you yourself don't do tracking, advertising, affiliate and all that) is in no way impacted. A s

Agreed. To add to that I would say that publishing a website (if you yourself don't do tracking, advertising, affiliate and all that) is in no way impacted. A simple web site without cookies and not transferring user data elsewhere but the hosting webserver is not impacted at all. At least when hosting with an European host. One needs an imprint and data privacy page. But both is easy (except in specific cases like for MDs that need to add just a little bit of information in the imprint). I support small businesses with their web activities. It did not get overly complicated through GDPR.

Tijdreiziger 5y ago
> One needs an imprint and data privacy page. Really? I have a small personal website with no tracking; I guess my hosting provider collects server logs, but do I really need a privacy page for that? An imprint is something I've only seen on German websites (I recall reading somewhere that those are required by law there).
- sdoering 5y ago
  In Germany every site that collects, stores and/or processes personal data (PD) is required to have a data privacy explanation that is easily reachable from every page and explains to the user what data is being received, stored, processed and also explain the user's rights (for example the right to be informed, to correct data and so on). At first glance, a "private" page does not directly process personal data and would therefore not require a privacy policy. So if you don't use contact forms, advertising banners, social media plugins, etc., you should be on the safe side. What most don't see: The server on which pages are located (hosted) collects personal data in the background in the form of server log files. These log files contain IP addresses, these addresses are personal data. So yes. Even if the server doesn't log the IP to logfiles as it still receives the IP every site needs a privacy page. There are good privacy page generators, though. Free of cost.
  - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
    > In Germany Well, I'm not in Germany... you didn't mention in your original comment that it only applies to German websites!
    - sdoering 5y ago
      Germany is the only country I can speak of from experience. Not sure about the other EU countries, but would expect similar regulations. Everybody else. Officially if you target European audiences you would need to adhere to the same regulations, but practically nobody could reasonably enforce it.
      - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
        Well, as I mentioned, I've only ever seen an imprint on websites from Germany, so I think you're conflating EU and national regulations.
  - iforgotpassword 5y ago
    What if I run something like a good old phpbb just as a hobby. What would I put on that privacy page? You enter your email address on sign-up. It's visible in your profile. You get notifications to it if you subscribe to topics. Isn't it kinda obvious it is stored? What if phpbb logs IP addresses for every post? I know it did in the past and don't remember there being an option to have that purged after a given amount of time. Can I do that? Do I need to put an imprint on the page, or is a contact form enough? Maybe I don't wanna put my name and address openly on the web. So I guess I'm just way to afraid to host a forum in Germany for my local sports club, because I don't wanna get hassled by lawyers who made this their business model. Better open a Facebook group, this is certainly much more privacy friendly.

Tijdreiziger 5y ago

> One needs an imprint and data privacy page. Really? I have a small personal website with no tracking; I guess my hosting provider collects server logs, but do I really need a privacy page for that? An imprint is something I've only seen on German websites (I recall reading somewhere that those are required by law there).

sdoering 5y ago
In Germany every site that collects, stores and/or processes personal data (PD) is required to have a data privacy explanation that is easily reachable from every page and explains to the user what data is being received, stored, processed and also explain the user's rights (for example the right to be informed, to correct data and so on). At first glance, a "private" page does not directly process personal data and would therefore not require a privacy policy. So if you don't use contact forms, advertising banners, social media plugins, etc., you should be on the safe side. What most don't see: The server on which pages are located (hosted) collects personal data in the background in the form of server log files. These log files contain IP addresses, these addresses are personal data. So yes. Even if the server doesn't log the IP to logfiles as it still receives the IP every site needs a privacy page. There are good privacy page generators, though. Free of cost.
- Tijdreiziger 5y ago
  > In Germany Well, I'm not in Germany... you didn't mention in your original comment that it only applies to German websites!
  - sdoering 5y ago
    Germany is the only country I can speak of from experience. Not sure about the other EU countries, but would expect similar regulations. Everybody else. Officially if you target European audiences you would need to adhere to the same regulations, but practically nobody could reasonably enforce it.
    - Tijdreiziger 5y ago
      Well, as I mentioned, I've only ever seen an imprint on websites from Germany, so I think you're conflating EU and national regulations.
- iforgotpassword 5y ago
  What if I run something like a good old phpbb just as a hobby. What would I put on that privacy page? You enter your email address on sign-up. It's visible in your profile. You get notifications to it if you subscribe to topics. Isn't it kinda obvious it is stored? What if phpbb logs IP addresses for every post? I know it did in the past and don't remember there being an option to have that purged after a given amount of time. Can I do that? Do I need to put an imprint on the page, or is a contact form enough? Maybe I don't wanna put my name and address openly on the web. So I guess I'm just way to afraid to host a forum in Germany for my local sports club, because I don't wanna get hassled by lawyers who made this their business model. Better open a Facebook group, this is certainly much more privacy friendly.