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I don't trust any government agency that sponsors and publishes literal propaganda: https://www.cisa.gov/resilience-series-graphic-novels https://www.cisa.gov/

I don't trust any government agency that sponsors and publishes literal propaganda: https://www.cisa.gov/resilience-series-graphic-novels https://www.cisa.gov/resilience-series-graphic-novels Especially when it's designed to encourage a kind of pro-establishment paranoia and hysteria. They have section about NATIONAL RISK MANAGEMENT that mentions 5G (which isn't even fully deployed and barely used yet) and doesn't mention the fact that US doesn't manufacture antibiotics and many essential drugs domestically? Their whole website has a very bizarre feel to it. It does not look like a normal government website. No, I'm not talking about design, but the kind of subjects they cover and how they cover them. Click around.

syshum 5y ago
"I don't trust any government agency" is where you should stop. Government should be inherently distrusted.
- nouveaux 5y ago
  Distrust is why Covid response broke in US. With distrust, everyone is going to just do what they want. Society becomes dysfunctional. Healthy skepticism is good approach to institutions.
  - syshum 5y ago
    Trust is earned not given. Tell me, how as any US Governmental institution earned any trust at any point during the response to COVID?
    - nouveaux 5y ago
      "earned any trust at any point during the response to COVID?" Free vaccines[0], free test kits[1], deployed troops to help hospitals [2], FDA fast tracked vaccine [3], food assistance [4], PPP saved a ton of businesses. "Trust is earned not given." If you live in the United States, I have a hard believing that you have derived a net negative from the US government. We should all be extremely skeptical of government leaders, especially those that are elected in a popularity contest. However, to say that the US government, at this point in time, should be inherently distrusted is what got us to this failed Covid response. We should have had 95% vaccine rates and moved past Covid six months ago. [0] https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines/index.html https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines/index.html [1] https://www.covidtests.gov/ https://www.covidtests.gov/ [2] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/21/omicron-us-to-deploy-troops-to-hospitals-purchase-500-million-covid-tests.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/21/omicron-us-to-deploy-troops-... [3] https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/30/fda-willing-to-fast-track-coronavirus-vaccine-before-phase-three-trials.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/30/fda-willing-to-fast-track-co... [4] https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2020/04/17/usda-announces-coronavirus-food-assistance-program https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2020/04/17/usda-an...
      - syshum 5y ago
        So in your mind "trust" is about free stuff? As long as they print or tax enough to spend on "free" things for everyone all the lies, deceit, and authoritarianism is forgiven? Interesting >>FDA fast tracked vaccine FDA creates a overly burdensome process, then admits it is not needed for safety... they should not get credit for that. That is the best case. Worst case is they bypassed critical safety requirements putting all of us in possible jeopardy Either Case I award them no points for that. >>PPP saved a ton of businesses. There was / is massive fraud in that system, also the loans were not given out on a needs requirement, it was first come first serve. Many companies that did not "need" the loans to survive got a lot of free money. PPP program while I am sure saves some jobs, was also a massive wealth transfer from future tax payers and savers (debt and inflation) to current business owners. >>I have a hard believing that you have derived a net negative from the US government. Then you are not paying attention, and/or have more collectivist vs individualist outlook, I prefer individual liberty
throwthere 5y ago
CISA’s purview is information security. Why would they mention anything about anabiotic’s?
- romaniv 5y ago
  >CISA’s purview is information security. Is it only? Doesn't seem like it from what they do. 'I' stands for "Infrastructure" and it's a very stretchable term: https://www.cisa.gov/chemical-security https://www.cisa.gov/chemical-security

syshum 5y ago

"I don't trust any government agency" is where you should stop. Government should be inherently distrusted.

nouveaux 5y ago
Distrust is why Covid response broke in US. With distrust, everyone is going to just do what they want. Society becomes dysfunctional. Healthy skepticism is good approach to institutions.
- syshum 5y ago
  Trust is earned not given. Tell me, how as any US Governmental institution earned any trust at any point during the response to COVID?
  - nouveaux 5y ago
    "earned any trust at any point during the response to COVID?" Free vaccines[0], free test kits[1], deployed troops to help hospitals [2], FDA fast tracked vaccine [3], food assistance [4], PPP saved a ton of businesses. "Trust is earned not given." If you live in the United States, I have a hard believing that you have derived a net negative from the US government. We should all be extremely skeptical of government leaders, especially those that are elected in a popularity contest. However, to say that the US government, at this point in time, should be inherently distrusted is what got us to this failed Covid response. We should have had 95% vaccine rates and moved past Covid six months ago. [0] https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines/index.html https://www.hhs.gov/coronavirus/covid-19-vaccines/index.html [1] https://www.covidtests.gov/ https://www.covidtests.gov/ [2] https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/21/omicron-us-to-deploy-troops-to-hospitals-purchase-500-million-covid-tests.html https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/21/omicron-us-to-deploy-troops-... [3] https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/30/fda-willing-to-fast-track-coronavirus-vaccine-before-phase-three-trials.html https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/30/fda-willing-to-fast-track-co... [4] https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2020/04/17/usda-announces-coronavirus-food-assistance-program https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2020/04/17/usda-an...
    - syshum 5y ago
      So in your mind "trust" is about free stuff? As long as they print or tax enough to spend on "free" things for everyone all the lies, deceit, and authoritarianism is forgiven? Interesting >>FDA fast tracked vaccine FDA creates a overly burdensome process, then admits it is not needed for safety... they should not get credit for that. That is the best case. Worst case is they bypassed critical safety requirements putting all of us in possible jeopardy Either Case I award them no points for that. >>PPP saved a ton of businesses. There was / is massive fraud in that system, also the loans were not given out on a needs requirement, it was first come first serve. Many companies that did not "need" the loans to survive got a lot of free money. PPP program while I am sure saves some jobs, was also a massive wealth transfer from future tax payers and savers (debt and inflation) to current business owners. >>I have a hard believing that you have derived a net negative from the US government. Then you are not paying attention, and/or have more collectivist vs individualist outlook, I prefer individual liberty

throwthere 5y ago

CISA’s purview is information security. Why would they mention anything about anabiotic’s?

romaniv 5y ago
>CISA’s purview is information security. Is it only? Doesn't seem like it from what they do. 'I' stands for "Infrastructure" and it's a very stretchable term: https://www.cisa.gov/chemical-security https://www.cisa.gov/chemical-security