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I think you can do anything in Javascript without either Redux Saga or Redux or React.

• surajs 5y ago
• bayesian_horse 5y ago
  Yes, of course. It is possible. And you could also write everything in C and compile it to Webassembly. I don't know why I often get these pedantic "disagreements" even though this is no disagreement at all. There are very valid reasons why virtual DOM systems (and similar approaches like Svelte) are so popular: For any not-completely-basic use-case they are easier to manage and faster. React is a popular and battle-tested choice. Once you get the hang of it, it's a well thought out system, and you can get a lot of advice and wisdom about it for free. Maybe React is so unpopular with the pedantics here because it is so popular in the real world? And Redux is one way - not the only way - to implement a pattern that is a functional programming alternative to the MVC pattern. An alternative I very much prefer. It is extremely powerful for moderate to complex cases, and then the boilerplate can be kept manageable and appropriate for the required complexity. I found that it is performant, easy to read, easy to extend and easy to debug. You can do all of that in Javascript, but my experience is that it is in general a lot more painful. It is harder to maintain and harder to bring other people on board. The only time this "I don't use no stinking framework" approach doesn't completely backfire is in smaller projects or when self-rolled frameworks emerge out of the "no framework" code base. I try to keep my ego out of programming. That also means that dissing on frameworks "just because I can survive without them" isn't productive.