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Eh, token visit pay is good. Otherwise system gets clogged by old people who come up with fake issues just to come talk to nurses and doctor. Which is a serious

by mantas 5y ago

Eh, token visit pay is good. Otherwise system gets clogged by old people who come up with fake issues just to come talk to nurses and doctor. Which is a serious issue as well. But it should be addressed by community centers where lonely people can meet other people

_0w8t 5y ago
In Norway for the same reason one is supposed to pay for a doctor. That amount is limited to about 250 USD per year, anything above that is covered by the state. Still it is quite effective to prevent visiting a doctor for trivial issues. And it is not only elderly people who just want to chat to a doctor. When I was a student a girl from the university told that she invented symptoms just to visit a doctor who was handsome and cute.
- vidarh 5y ago
  Norways healthcare system is one of the most expensive in Europe. Far more so than e. g. in the UK with no copay, and one of only a couple to occasionally compete with the US on high cost...
ValentineC 5y ago
On the other hand, because of the need for a medical certificate [1] in most conventional companies (there's even a centralised system for this [2]), students and workers often have to clog up the healthcare system just to prove that they're ill. [1] https://www.sma.org.sg/UploadedImg/files/Publications%20-%20SMA%20News/5101/Opinion.pdf https://www.sma.org.sg/UploadedImg/files/Publications%20-%20... [2] https://www.mc.gov.sg/ https://www.mc.gov.sg/
- mantas 5y ago
  What would you do instead? If someone says he's ill, trust him? :) But someone is paying for sick days, right? :) At least in my countries sick days are covered (first 3? days by employer, then the state). Naturally paper trail is necessary to avoid abusing the system. Back in my school days, for some time parents-written sick note was accepted up to 5 days. So many kids had vacation pictures to show after being „sick“.
  - ValentineC 5y ago
    I don't think there is a best way, but something like 1-2 sick days every 3 months without documentation would sound reasonable to me. If I'm far too sick to work in a white-collar job, I'm probably not in a good state to drag myself down to a doctor either.
    - mantas 5y ago
      That'd be like checking average body temperature of the hospital and declaring everybody healthy since it's 36.6. Many people won't need get sick for years and just use those sick days as extra holidays. Because why would you let this go to waste :) But those who do get ill, most likely will be off for more than 1-2 days at a time.
catlifeonmars 5y ago
Do you have a source for this or know how prolific this was?

by mantas 5y ago

_0w8t 5y ago

In Norway for the same reason one is supposed to pay for a doctor. That amount is limited to about 250 USD per year, anything above that is covered by the state. Still it is quite effective to prevent visiting a doctor for trivial issues. And it is not only elderly people who just want to chat to a doctor. When I was a student a girl from the university told that she invented symptoms just to visit a doctor who was handsome and cute.

vidarh 5y ago
Norways healthcare system is one of the most expensive in Europe. Far more so than e. g. in the UK with no copay, and one of only a couple to occasionally compete with the US on high cost...

ValentineC 5y ago

On the other hand, because of the need for a medical certificate [1] in most conventional companies (there's even a centralised system for this [2]), students and workers often have to clog up the healthcare system just to prove that they're ill. [1] https://www.sma.org.sg/UploadedImg/files/Publications%20-%20SMA%20News/5101/Opinion.pdf https://www.sma.org.sg/UploadedImg/files/Publications%20-%20... [2] https://www.mc.gov.sg/ https://www.mc.gov.sg/

mantas 5y ago
What would you do instead? If someone says he's ill, trust him? :) But someone is paying for sick days, right? :) At least in my countries sick days are covered (first 3? days by employer, then the state). Naturally paper trail is necessary to avoid abusing the system. Back in my school days, for some time parents-written sick note was accepted up to 5 days. So many kids had vacation pictures to show after being „sick“.
- ValentineC 5y ago
  I don't think there is a best way, but something like 1-2 sick days every 3 months without documentation would sound reasonable to me. If I'm far too sick to work in a white-collar job, I'm probably not in a good state to drag myself down to a doctor either.
  - mantas 5y ago
    That'd be like checking average body temperature of the hospital and declaring everybody healthy since it's 36.6. Many people won't need get sick for years and just use those sick days as extra holidays. Because why would you let this go to waste :) But those who do get ill, most likely will be off for more than 1-2 days at a time.

catlifeonmars 5y ago

Do you have a source for this or know how prolific this was?