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The article does not touch upon why exactly android + encrypted chats. But it does make sense not to give your employer access to your personal affairs. If I'

by _odey 5y ago

The article does not touch upon why exactly android + encrypted chats. But it does make sense not to give your employer access to your personal affairs. If I'd ever work for Google, I'll switch my and my families devices and accounts to Apple's (and other); if I'd ever work for Apple I'd switch them to Google; if I'd ever work for Microsoft I don't need to do anything :) because they have nothing I use or need (maybe LinkedIn, but I use that as a top of the funnel lead generator only). Policies mean nothing when there's an interest involved.

zibzab 5y ago
> if I'd ever work for Microsoft I don't need to do anything :) because they have nothing I use or need I find Teams and OneDrive superior to their counterparts. The jury is still out on Outlook, but you can't beat it if you use exchange.
- pinephoneguy 5y ago
  Teams is awful. I don't know how people actually like these closed IM apps to begin with but Teams is one of the most poorly behaved ones.
  - zibzab 5y ago
    Teams is the only one that works reasonably well in different browsers and also has a decent official Linux client. In my experience, Zoom is the one that always causes issues for people. Not to mention that it has had tons of security issues.
    - antifa 5y ago
      Most people saying teams is terrible are probably referring to the non audio/video components and have used any slack competitor before their employer randomly switched to this weird PoS called teams.
    - Nullabillity 5y ago
      Teams is the only one that can't join calls at all on Firefox.
      - slaw 5y ago
        Slack call for long time didn’t work on Firefox. You got message “This feature works only on Chrome”. Recently Firefox is not blocked, but still doesn’t work for me.
  - MikeDelta 5y ago
    In my experience, before Teams most companies used Webex. This failed regularly and participants had to constantly try dialling in via phone because the app didn't work. Teams works, at least, compared to Webex.

by _odey 5y ago

zibzab 5y ago

> if I'd ever work for Microsoft I don't need to do anything :) because they have nothing I use or need I find Teams and OneDrive superior to their counterparts. The jury is still out on Outlook, but you can't beat it if you use exchange.

pinephoneguy 5y ago
Teams is awful. I don't know how people actually like these closed IM apps to begin with but Teams is one of the most poorly behaved ones.
- zibzab 5y ago
  Teams is the only one that works reasonably well in different browsers and also has a decent official Linux client. In my experience, Zoom is the one that always causes issues for people. Not to mention that it has had tons of security issues.
  - antifa 5y ago
    Most people saying teams is terrible are probably referring to the non audio/video components and have used any slack competitor before their employer randomly switched to this weird PoS called teams.
  - Nullabillity 5y ago
    Teams is the only one that can't join calls at all on Firefox.
    - slaw 5y ago
      Slack call for long time didn’t work on Firefox. You got message “This feature works only on Chrome”. Recently Firefox is not blocked, but still doesn’t work for me.
- MikeDelta 5y ago
  In my experience, before Teams most companies used Webex. This failed regularly and participants had to constantly try dialling in via phone because the app didn't work. Teams works, at least, compared to Webex.