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Forgive my ignorance, but I always see the quest mentioned. Are there any comparable devices that don’t require Facebook? I’ve sworn off FB and while VR for ca

Forgive my ignorance, but I always see the quest mentioned. Are there any comparable devices that don’t require Facebook? I’ve sworn off FB and while VR for cardio has me intrigued, nothing is gonna get me to sign back in there.

kuang_eleven 5y ago
It isn't really comparable, but the only other real VR competitor out there is the Valve Index, which is considerably more expensive, requires base stations and requires a cord to a (beefy) computer, but on the flip side can support many more games, with much better controllers and is much more powerful.
- ehnto 5y ago
  Why not the Vive? They've made huge progress in the last few years.
  - kuang_eleven 5y ago
    That's true, I just forgot about them. From what I've seen, the Vive occupies a midpoint in price and quality between the Oculus products and the Index. EDIT: I hadn't actually seen much of the Vive Pro 2, it looks... comparable to the Index? Both price and feature-wise?
    - ehnto 5y ago
      That's still their flagship I think, check out their other lines like the cosmos which has AR/VR type camera integration etc, room scale without the base stations and so on.
    - bubbab 5y ago
      Not really a midpoint, but more on a similar level to Index. Generally, people like Index more than the Vive Pros on most points (display, audio, controllers, etc.) except for the wireless capability, and some niche features like eye tracking on the Vive Pro Eye. If you want a wireless high-end headset, Vive is the only game in town (Index is wired-only) so you have to get a Vive. It'll end up being more expensive than Index because the wireless adapter is $350. Since the Vive Pros and Index share the same tracking system, people do mix and match equipment other than the headset though. Many people will buy a Vive Pro headset and use Index controllers with them, since they're better. Index users will buy Vive trackers for full-body tracking because nothing equivalent exists for the Index.
- bane 5y ago
  What games does the Index support that the Quest 2 doesn't? Honest question since the Q2 works fine with Steam VR.
  - kuang_eleven 5y ago
    You are right, in tethered mode I don't think the Quest 2 has any fewer games than the Index, I was just considering the standalone mode of Quest 2.
  - yaomtc 5y ago
    That is not a reason to choose one over the other, for the reason you stated.
- baby 5y ago
  With the quest you can stream beefy games from your computer
mettamage 5y ago
IMO not really atm. Inside out tracking and cheap. It’s hard to compete with the Quest 2 on convenience.
- jaxrtech 5y ago
  Well there are pros and cons selling at a loss
  - j245 5y ago
    PS5 is another notable example of selling at a loss (at least initially)
    - toastal 5y ago
      Almost every console and handheld have been sold at a loss -- including the new Steam Deck. Games, licensing, and access to the platform has always been the money makers.
cagr 5y ago
Meta Quest is totally unrelated to Facebook Blue :)
- zwaps 5y ago
  This is simply not true. It's obviously the same company and will treat your privacy right the same way (i.e. as nonexistant) Further, you need a facebook account to log in (at least, for now) and it needs to be your real name (if you don't want to run afoul to Meta's terms and conditions). so yeah, the will use and combine your data for any nefarious purpose see: https://support.oculus.com/146743104076817 https://support.oculus.com/146743104076817 "Yes. Facebook will use information related to your use of VR and other Facebook products to show you personalized content, including ads, across Facebook products. This could include recommendations for Oculus Events you might like, ads about Facebook apps and technologies, or ads from developers for their VR apps."
blensor 5y ago
Pico Neo 3 IQ Q3 (still in development) HTC Vive Focus Lynx R1 ( still in development ) Oculus Quest using Oculess to remove FB ( or just ask Meta support to unlink your headset from your account )
- deleted 5y ago
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JoeDaDude 5y ago
I'd recommend you look at the HP Reverb headset, which has a good performance/price ratio. Technically, it is made for the Windows Mixed Reality ecosystem, but I find it supports almost all Steam VR games and there are work arounds to make it work for oculus games without a FB account. YMMV

kuang_eleven 5y ago

It isn't really comparable, but the only other real VR competitor out there is the Valve Index, which is considerably more expensive, requires base stations and requires a cord to a (beefy) computer, but on the flip side can support many more games, with much better controllers and is much more powerful.

ehnto 5y ago
Why not the Vive? They've made huge progress in the last few years.
- kuang_eleven 5y ago
  That's true, I just forgot about them. From what I've seen, the Vive occupies a midpoint in price and quality between the Oculus products and the Index. EDIT: I hadn't actually seen much of the Vive Pro 2, it looks... comparable to the Index? Both price and feature-wise?
  - ehnto 5y ago
    That's still their flagship I think, check out their other lines like the cosmos which has AR/VR type camera integration etc, room scale without the base stations and so on.
  - bubbab 5y ago
    Not really a midpoint, but more on a similar level to Index. Generally, people like Index more than the Vive Pros on most points (display, audio, controllers, etc.) except for the wireless capability, and some niche features like eye tracking on the Vive Pro Eye. If you want a wireless high-end headset, Vive is the only game in town (Index is wired-only) so you have to get a Vive. It'll end up being more expensive than Index because the wireless adapter is $350. Since the Vive Pros and Index share the same tracking system, people do mix and match equipment other than the headset though. Many people will buy a Vive Pro headset and use Index controllers with them, since they're better. Index users will buy Vive trackers for full-body tracking because nothing equivalent exists for the Index.
bane 5y ago
What games does the Index support that the Quest 2 doesn't? Honest question since the Q2 works fine with Steam VR.
- kuang_eleven 5y ago
  You are right, in tethered mode I don't think the Quest 2 has any fewer games than the Index, I was just considering the standalone mode of Quest 2.
- yaomtc 5y ago
  That is not a reason to choose one over the other, for the reason you stated.
baby 5y ago
With the quest you can stream beefy games from your computer

mettamage 5y ago

IMO not really atm. Inside out tracking and cheap. It’s hard to compete with the Quest 2 on convenience.

jaxrtech 5y ago
Well there are pros and cons selling at a loss
- j245 5y ago
  PS5 is another notable example of selling at a loss (at least initially)
  - toastal 5y ago
    Almost every console and handheld have been sold at a loss -- including the new Steam Deck. Games, licensing, and access to the platform has always been the money makers.

cagr 5y ago

Meta Quest is totally unrelated to Facebook Blue :)

zwaps 5y ago
This is simply not true. It's obviously the same company and will treat your privacy right the same way (i.e. as nonexistant) Further, you need a facebook account to log in (at least, for now) and it needs to be your real name (if you don't want to run afoul to Meta's terms and conditions). so yeah, the will use and combine your data for any nefarious purpose see: https://support.oculus.com/146743104076817 https://support.oculus.com/146743104076817 "Yes. Facebook will use information related to your use of VR and other Facebook products to show you personalized content, including ads, across Facebook products. This could include recommendations for Oculus Events you might like, ads about Facebook apps and technologies, or ads from developers for their VR apps."

blensor 5y ago

Pico Neo 3 IQ Q3 (still in development) HTC Vive Focus Lynx R1 ( still in development ) Oculus Quest using Oculess to remove FB ( or just ask Meta support to unlink your headset from your account )

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JoeDaDude 5y ago

I'd recommend you look at the HP Reverb headset, which has a good performance/price ratio. Technically, it is made for the Windows Mixed Reality ecosystem, but I find it supports almost all Steam VR games and there are work arounds to make it work for oculus games without a FB account. YMMV