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It's so bizarre to read a positive article about a gaming company that I had to re-read it just to make sure I wasn't missing some lurking terrible part. From

It's so bizarre to read a positive article about a gaming company that I had to re-read it just to make sure I wasn't missing some lurking terrible part. From what it says here they'll still use contract work for short term things, but most of these contractors who have functionally already been working full-time will now officially be full-time employees. That's really cool imo.

melissalobos 5y ago
Hopefully that is what this is. I would try to reserve judgement until more details are out, but it does look good.
KennyBlanken 5y ago
My guess is that they were required to do it by the IRS or a state dept of revenue breathing down their necks over abusing independent contractor status, but even if that's not the case... I don't really feel like giving a giant corporation making piles of cash a cookie for being slightly less shitty.
seattle_spring 5y ago
The horrible part is they have to play Fortnite.
- Karsteski 5y ago
  - seattle_spring 5y ago
    > Are you a child..? No, I thought I made it clear that I don't like Fortnite ;)
BoorishBears 5y ago
If you really want a negative side, I've worked with former QA engineers from Epic in NC and heard truly awful things They treated contractors as second class citizens, being physically segregated, sketchy overtime arrangements, verbal abuse... And this was, 3? 4? years ago now so it'd be too late for a lot of people who suffered. And it's not like Epic just got the funds to do this either. So sounds like they might be bleeding the people they treated like undesirables. - Of course this is the internet and someone will likely reply this is false and Epic is actually wonderful. And I won't say they're lying, but this was from first party retellings of conditions immediately after leaving the place so...
bennysomething 5y ago
Maybe it's different in the USA, but in the UK all software contractors (including testers) have no interest in going perm. They make more money, avoid bullshit like yearly reviews and objectives and seem to prefer it.
- zem 5y ago
  in the USA you get screwed badly on health insurance if you don't get it through your employer, which makes perm jobs disproportionately attractive
  - bennysomething 5y ago
    Ah I see. Thanks

melissalobos 5y ago

Hopefully that is what this is. I would try to reserve judgement until more details are out, but it does look good.

KennyBlanken 5y ago

My guess is that they were required to do it by the IRS or a state dept of revenue breathing down their necks over abusing independent contractor status, but even if that's not the case... I don't really feel like giving a giant corporation making piles of cash a cookie for being slightly less shitty.

seattle_spring 5y ago

The horrible part is they have to play Fortnite.

Karsteski 5y ago
- seattle_spring 5y ago
  > Are you a child..? No, I thought I made it clear that I don't like Fortnite ;)

BoorishBears 5y ago

If you really want a negative side, I've worked with former QA engineers from Epic in NC and heard truly awful things They treated contractors as second class citizens, being physically segregated, sketchy overtime arrangements, verbal abuse... And this was, 3? 4? years ago now so it'd be too late for a lot of people who suffered. And it's not like Epic just got the funds to do this either. So sounds like they might be bleeding the people they treated like undesirables. - Of course this is the internet and someone will likely reply this is false and Epic is actually wonderful. And I won't say they're lying, but this was from first party retellings of conditions immediately after leaving the place so...

bennysomething 5y ago

Maybe it's different in the USA, but in the UK all software contractors (including testers) have no interest in going perm. They make more money, avoid bullshit like yearly reviews and objectives and seem to prefer it.

zem 5y ago
in the USA you get screwed badly on health insurance if you don't get it through your employer, which makes perm jobs disproportionately attractive
- bennysomething 5y ago
  Ah I see. Thanks