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I'm not a huge fan of the HP ink subscription for privacy reasons (but my mom likes it), but isn't most of your comment just wrong? - IIRC the printer will wor

I'm not a huge fan of the HP ink subscription for privacy reasons (but my mom likes it), but isn't most of your comment just wrong? - IIRC the printer will work without internet for a while (a week?), eventually you'll have to hook it back up though. (Makes sense to me if you're paying by the page.) - You can't run out of pages. If you overrun your subscription, you just pay a few cents per extra page. Also, you can carry over pages up to a few months (so if your subscription is for 100 pages/month, and you didn't print in the last 2 months, you can print 300 pages this month without having to pay extra). - Cost-wise, the subscription is actually a pretty good value compared to buying cartridges outright.

BoorishBears 5y ago
No, none of the comment is wrong, you're just confused. > IIRC the printer will work without internet for a while (a week?), eventually you'll have to hook it back up though. (Makes sense to me if you're paying by the page.) In other words printer doesn't work without Internet. You know you have a bad point when the creators of the thing don't even agree with it: https://instantink.hpconnected.com/us/en/terms https://instantink.hpconnected.com/us/en/terms If Your printer is not connected to the Internet, then the Instant Ink-activated Cartridges will be disabled and You will not be able to use them to print; A grace period doesn't change anything about this. > You can't run out of pages. If you overrun your subscription, you just pay a few cents per extra page. In other words... you can run out of pages. When you out of pages you're automatically forced to buy more pages, and if you don't, the printer won't print, regardless of ink level. And the rollover had me howling with laughter, by capping rollover HP figured out away to literally take ink out of your printer if you don't use it! Except it's "pages" they claw back of course, and instead of taking ink out, they just require you to pay for an additional month if you plan to use it even though it's sitting in the printer :D > Cost-wise, the subscription is actually a pretty good value compared to buying cartridges outright. It's not unless you buy the $20 a month plan and print 4,000 pages a month and they're mostly color... https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/hp-officejet-pro-9015-all-in-one-printer https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/hp-officejet-pro-9015-all-in-o... > If you buy the highest-yield XL ink cartridges (2,000 pages monochrome and 1,600 pages color) for this AIO, each monochrome page will cost you about 2.2 cents and each color print will run about 8.8 cents. Subscribing to the company’s highest-yield Instant Ink subscription (700 pages for $19.99 per month, with each additional 20 pages for $1), each page will cost you 2.9 cents… Hence, it is with colorful, content-heavy pages that Instant Ink delivers the best value… God help you if you're one of the unfortunate souls suckered into an "occasional use plan"... You pay 6 cents a page At which point even color prints are more expensive! And this is literally anything you print! Even a piece of paper that says "the" costs more than a full page full glossy color photo from a cartridge! - C'mon, you really thought HP would literally lease you an ink cartridge and it'd be a good deal? Because that's what Instant Ink is btw... they own that cartridge: https://support.hp.com/ee-en/product/hp-photosmart-microlab-printers/3467982/document/c03922745 https://support.hp.com/ee-en/product/hp-photosmart-microlab-... It's genius really, they invented a program that mostly entices occasional users. And charges them more than the ink would be worth even at first party prices (let's forget about 3rd party refills lol) And then caps rollovers so that they can lose value which is an indirect way of... magically stretching ink. Truly mind bendingly incredible but evil stuff. Kudos to whoever taught of it.
- Tijdreiziger 5y ago
  It seems to me that you fundamentally misunderstand the premise of the subscription... You're not paying for ink or cartridges in the first place, but for the service of printing. It's also cheaper by your own admission (6 < 8.8) (assuming color prints, because why else buy a color printer?).
  - BoorishBears 5y ago
c0npr 5y ago
To add to others' opinions, HP have their offline driver very hard to find and almost can't install properly. Even what I want to use is the scan function on the printer, I will have to get internet access to open up a account with HP, or else the phone app and computer app just refuses to show the relevant pages... Just outright annoying and would not buy any HP product again before they improve the situation

BoorishBears 5y ago

No, none of the comment is wrong, you're just confused. > IIRC the printer will work without internet for a while (a week?), eventually you'll have to hook it back up though. (Makes sense to me if you're paying by the page.) In other words printer doesn't work without Internet. You know you have a bad point when the creators of the thing don't even agree with it: https://instantink.hpconnected.com/us/en/terms https://instantink.hpconnected.com/us/en/terms If Your printer is not connected to the Internet, then the Instant Ink-activated Cartridges will be disabled and You will not be able to use them to print; A grace period doesn't change anything about this. > You can't run out of pages. If you overrun your subscription, you just pay a few cents per extra page. In other words... you can run out of pages. When you out of pages you're automatically forced to buy more pages, and if you don't, the printer won't print, regardless of ink level. And the rollover had me howling with laughter, by capping rollover HP figured out away to literally take ink out of your printer if you don't use it! Except it's "pages" they claw back of course, and instead of taking ink out, they just require you to pay for an additional month if you plan to use it even though it's sitting in the printer :D > Cost-wise, the subscription is actually a pretty good value compared to buying cartridges outright. It's not unless you buy the $20 a month plan and print 4,000 pages a month and they're mostly color... https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/hp-officejet-pro-9015-all-in-one-printer https://www.pcmag.com/reviews/hp-officejet-pro-9015-all-in-o... > If you buy the highest-yield XL ink cartridges (2,000 pages monochrome and 1,600 pages color) for this AIO, each monochrome page will cost you about 2.2 cents and each color print will run about 8.8 cents. Subscribing to the company’s highest-yield Instant Ink subscription (700 pages for $19.99 per month, with each additional 20 pages for $1), each page will cost you 2.9 cents… Hence, it is with colorful, content-heavy pages that Instant Ink delivers the best value… God help you if you're one of the unfortunate souls suckered into an "occasional use plan"... You pay 6 cents a page At which point even color prints are more expensive! And this is literally anything you print! Even a piece of paper that says "the" costs more than a full page full glossy color photo from a cartridge! - C'mon, you really thought HP would literally lease you an ink cartridge and it'd be a good deal? Because that's what Instant Ink is btw... they own that cartridge: https://support.hp.com/ee-en/product/hp-photosmart-microlab-printers/3467982/document/c03922745 https://support.hp.com/ee-en/product/hp-photosmart-microlab-... It's genius really, they invented a program that mostly entices occasional users. And charges them more than the ink would be worth even at first party prices (let's forget about 3rd party refills lol) And then caps rollovers so that they can lose value which is an indirect way of... magically stretching ink. Truly mind bendingly incredible but evil stuff. Kudos to whoever taught of it.

Tijdreiziger 5y ago
It seems to me that you fundamentally misunderstand the premise of the subscription... You're not paying for ink or cartridges in the first place, but for the service of printing. It's also cheaper by your own admission (6 < 8.8) (assuming color prints, because why else buy a color printer?).
- BoorishBears 5y ago

c0npr 5y ago

To add to others' opinions, HP have their offline driver very hard to find and almost can't install properly. Even what I want to use is the scan function on the printer, I will have to get internet access to open up a account with HP, or else the phone app and computer app just refuses to show the relevant pages... Just outright annoying and would not buy any HP product again before they improve the situation